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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 19:39:48
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@Daz

No you do not need to order the backplate, if order a new system, if you do you might end up whit two backplates.

If you have beta tester system then you might want order it.

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Re: X1000 advices
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Good to know, cancelling it from the list.
Thanks

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 20:53:23
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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It does worry me that you have NOT got a e-mail saying "Your interest has now been noted."


I got a mail reply later that night.

I filled the order form, but the amount is too big and I have to wait a day or two to be able to pay thru PayPal.

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 20:59:24
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1 x Catweasel MK2 Anniversary Edition - Accessories: AmigaOne X1000 Add-On Pack - Floppy Drive: High Density PC (Black Fascia) €77.35 1 x Amiga Floppy Disk Drive (A1200 Tower/A2000/A4000) - Cable: 40 CM - Drive Unit: DF1: €24.53


I still have some spare parts from my death A4000.
Do you need Catweasel to use an Amiga floppy drive on the X1000 ? Is there a bay for it ?

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 21:14:14
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@AmigaPhil

No there is no floppy connector on the motherboard, use USB if you need move files.
there is a PATA connector for harddrives.
No need to dissemble your A4000

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 21:18:26
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@NutsAboutAmiga, AmigaPhil:

There's no Floppy connector on the X1000 motherboard, you'll need a catweasel to be able to read Classic Amiga Disks. I also believe you will only need a regular PC floppy drive, not an amiga drive.

EDIT: X1000 tower comes with two 5,25" drive bays, one of which can be converted to 3,5" by means of a bundled adapter.

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Re: X1000 advices
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@Ami603

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There's no Floppy connector on the X1000 motherboard, you'll need a catweasel to be able to read Classic Amiga Disks. I also believe you will only need a regular PC floppy drive, not an amiga drive. EDIT: X1000 tower comes with two 5,25" drive bays, one of which can be converted to 3,5" by means of a bundled adapter.


There is an AmigaOne X1000 Add-On Pack option when selecting Catweasel, and yes, it uses standard PC floppy. Dropped Amiga floppy from original idea.

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Re: X1000 advices
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@vox

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>> - SATA HD upgrade to 2GB


That's rather small.

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Re: X1000 advices
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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No need to dissemble your A4000


Already done.

I had some trouble with my A4000 tower (see: My A4000 died), and I had to dissemble almost everything to be able to remove a faulty HDD. What's left in my tower is the motherboard + Warpengine, and a brokened PSU. Some other parts are re-usable, like foppy drives and a SCSI CD-ROM reader. (One of these days, I'll try to sell the Amiga stuff I don't use anymore.)


@vox

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There is an AmigaOne X1000 Add-On Pack option when selecting Catweasel, and yes, it uses standard PC floppy. Dropped Amiga floppy from original idea.


And no problem to read Amiga floppies ? (I still have many commercial and shareware apps on floppy disks.)


@all

And about monitor...
Maybe I won't buy one from Amigakit, to avoid extra shipping costs.

What would you suggest as monitor for the X1000 ? (A LED one with compatibility with all the available Amiga screen modes. My graphic board will be a Radeon HD 6870 1GB)

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 14-Jun-2013 12:54:12
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@AmigaPhil



@All

2TB upgrade Quote:
And no problem to read Amiga floppies ? (I still have many commercial and shareware apps on floppy disks.)


No, but you have to buy Catweasel and AmigaOne x1000 upgrade pack, and you can also get floppy from them.

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@all And about monitor... Maybe I won't buy one from Amigakit, to avoid extra shipping costs. What would you suggest as monitor for the X1000 ? (A LED one with compatibility with all the available Amiga screen modes. My graphic board will be a Radeon HD 6870 1GB)


I don`t see any monitors offered or speakers. So its up to us.
Will have the same card, so waiting for recommendations, even I do believe almost any LCD would work. Have spare 16" at home until final decision is made

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 14-Jun-2013 14:04:09
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@AmigaPhil

I don't know of any monitor that does not work, just buy the monitor you like.

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Re: X1000 advices
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@AmigaPhil

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What would you suggest as monitor for the X1000 ?

A Radeon HD 6870 is an off the shelf PC gfx card, any TFT monitor will work. I'd save the money & get one you like local.

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 15-Jun-2013 13:52:01
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@all

I'm now added to the "wait list" as well.
My X1000 config is (will be) about the same as vox.

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 15-Jun-2013 15:47:43
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@AmigaPhil

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I'm now added to the "wait list" as well. My X1000 config is (will be) about the same as vox.


Nice to hear So waiting along ...

Meawhile I have ran trough the AmiKit webshop and discovered two cards
I have dropped Catweasel for now, might come back if I raise enough money
by time my call comes ... Or would live with ADF and DMS files I backed up even
before my A1200 died.

Wireless Prism PCI card that solves Net access
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=158

I do undestand both X1000 PCI slots are occupied by sound and net card.
As far as onboard sound driver grows mature, sound card in PCI slot might not be needed.
Since I do have Sound Blaster 5.1 with EMU chip just in case, WI-FI come as priority as I have it at home. Hope other PCI slot would come free at some point (development of onboard network card driver for Nemo)

Xorro project board
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1135

This should give possibility to use XMOS, and expand later, if I understand well.
Its required to develop for XMOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LLqe62_J8

Not an experienced programmer, but interested to know what know what are possible benefits and uses of Xorro card

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 15-Jun-2013 17:32:57
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@AmigaPhil

Your probably do not need your SCSI CDROM in you X1000 as comes whit SATA DVDROM that can easily read any CD, and catweasel is happy whit standard PC floppy drive, you don't need Amiga floppy drive.

You only devalue your Amiga4000, if you're going to sell it, because you can't get original floppy drives for Amiga4000. A PC PSU should be easy to modify to work whit Amiga, you just need to get power right, think you find some guides about that somewhere, anyway it good to have it working if you're going to sell it.

I don't know if keep floppy disk is some want to unless you have something you're created yourself on disks, most things can be download, it better to have games in ADF disk image format anyway.

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 15-Jun-2013 18:30:28
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Your probably do not need your SCSI CDROM in you X1000 as comes whit SATA DVDROM that can easily read any CD


No, I do not wish to reuse my old SCSI CD-ROM; it's just, as far as I know, it is still working, and I don't know what to do with it. It's outdated, and most probably out of interest if I want to sell it as second hand.


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You only devalue your Amiga4000, if you're going to sell it, because you can't get original floppy drives for Amiga4000.


I still have the two floppy drives. They are dusty (inside), but should be still in order of work.

Again, what's left in my A4000 tower case is the mother/daughter boards, and a warpengine CPU board. I can't tell if the motherboard is still working properly, this has to be tested.
I will not try to repair it myself. If someone wish to get it, he will have to remount every parts, replace the PSU, repair some losing screw (holes), and so on...
That's why I'm not decided yet. I fear the costs (packaging/shipping if needed) is not worth the annoyments; nor even if there's a do-it-yourself enthousiast for such kind of materials I can provide.

As for floppies, I'm not sure I will have a real use for it again, but as of today, I have no backups of them on disks images. And also, I'm not sure I can retrieve all my old applications by just copying them back from my A4000 HDD image.

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Re: X1000 advices
Posted on 15-Jun-2013 18:53:01
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@AmigaPhil

Great, you made good choise.
I have use my X1000 now about three weeks and I have been so much fun.
The machine is so smooth to use and old programs runs fast!

I hope you get your system as soon as possible

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Posted on 15-Jun-2013 21:23:33
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@Breed

Risk of repeating myself, but these questions remain open to me

While waiting on my X1000 order list (finally, bite the bullet!) saw a Prism Wi Fi card on Amikit

Wireless Prism PCI card that solves Net access
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=158

I do undestand both X1000 PCI slots are occupied by sound and net card.
As far as onboard sound driver grows mature, sound card in PCI slot might not be needed.
I think of when my order day comes to replace the sound card with Wi-Fi

a) which sound card comes with X1000 in PCI slot?
b) There are just two PCI slots, both occupied?
c) Has anyone ever tested Prism card on X1000?

Is Xorro project board worth of ~50e?

Xorro project board
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1135

This should give possibility to use XMOS, and expand later, if I understand well.
Its required to develop for XMOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LLqe62_J8

Not an experienced programmer, but interested to know what know what are possible benefits and uses of Xorro card

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Posted on 16-Jun-2013 14:32:59
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@vox

The X1000 is not really what you can call a portable computer , so why not wired it to a (Wi-Fi) router with an ethernet cable, and give it a fixed IP address ? The router will manage your LAN and you will be able to communicate with other Wi-Fi devices from/to the X1000.

I don't know much about the xorro board, but IMHO, it's too soon to buy it. I think this is a board for developers so that they can create apps for XMOS.

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The X1000 is not really what you can call a portable computer , so why not wired it to a (Wi-Fi) router with an ethernet cable, and give it a fixed IP address ? The router will manage your LAN and you will be able to communicate with other Wi-Fi devices from/to the X1000. I don't know much about the xorro board, but IMHO, it's too soon to buy it. I think this is a board for developers so that they can create apps for XMOS.


Thanks Phil! Helping each other out on "most expensive computer purchase of our times"

a) Wi-Fi: Well my router is already Wi Fi but its not in the same room where AX1000 will be (and that PC will became a public property of friends and family once X1000 comes) so I would prefer to use Wi-Fi. Sadly, onboard net is not yet working, so one PCI slot is occupied by LAN Card anyway, so I will just ask AmigaKit to swap it. Even AmigaKit seems to make nice software package for Prism2 owners, personaly I would like if they could get those Altheros Wi-Fi cards which recently have got an AmigaOS 4 driver.

b) Dropped Xorro and returned to Catweasel and Amiga floppy. Good people of Amigans net
have explained me its needed just for those who wish to interfrace with external hardware.
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5967&forum=4

At the other hand, if its done well and X1000 sound becomes operational, I will have a spare SATA controller card, Radeon 9250 PCI and Sound Blaster 5.1 with EMU101 for exchange for AmigaWritter, PageStream or ArtEFfect licences (or any other worthy software that can work under OS 4.1)
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The Xorro Addon card is only useful if you do plan to interface external hardware with the X1000, you can always toy and develop for the internal XMOS without the need of this card.

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