@Metalheart

why prefer a windows browser instead of amiga(like) native mui solution especially that it shares the same engine? you guys like to make it hard for developers to satisfy you?

@Metalheart

OWB is the same rendering engine as Chrome, not that much different.

@danwood

google forked it. they call it blink.

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Metalheart wrote: I think we might be better of if Google Chrome came to OS4...... ah well....

not me. FireFox on my Win7 machine & TimberWolf happily on my OS4.1u6

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@Fab

Thank you Fab for this information. I did not know OWB was so advanced. I see one can do quite a bit with OWB then.

So if one needed to use their next gen Amiga for most productive online tasks it is possible to do so under OS4. With the release of Libra Office, this will get even better I would imagine.

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Ok, thanks for this. I did not know OWB used the Webkit engine. Then what is the difference between Gecko and Webkit? It is a bit confusing...

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@Hypex

Interesting, wonder why you are having so many issues with it? From what I read on the Frieden and Bounty websites, thought the latest version was ok'ish for browsing.

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@danwood

True danwwod, reading up on OWB a bit more it does seem to be quite comprehensive indeed... and it continues to be actively developed?

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@QuBe

fabs morphos originated browser is called odyssey now and is not to confuse with former os4 owb port by joerg strohmayer. yes, it is actively maintained i guess.

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@wawa

OWB for OS4 is dead in the water (for now atleast)
Timberwolf doesnt exactly run wonderfull on my SAM and doesnt have a native GUI AND it seems to lack behind firefox aswel.
Chrome isnt a Windows browser, it has a MAC version aswel.

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Chrome isnt a Windows browser, it has a MAC version aswel.

It also has a Linux version, which I'm using right now to post this.

@salass00

Exactly !

I dont think timberwolf is viable (no critiscm towards the Friedens, they are doing a great job) but it seems a huge task porting and keeping up....

Perhaps Chrome would give the same problems, I dont know.. but this is what I feel about the browser state...

I realy hate not being able to play youtube/facebook videos using my browser.....
And frankly I'm fedup with creating workarounds for all sorts of basic functionality that other os'es take for granted.... but thats a bit OT for now....

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@Metalheart

The problem is that is too few hours in the day for the Friedens to do everything.

Create SMP support.
Up to date GL (Mesa).
TimberWolf.

This are big tasks, they should not be working alone on any of this tasks.
Timberwolf alone is maybe a full day job.

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Then what is the difference between Gecko and Webkit? It is a bit confusing...

They are just different rendering engines. They support different things and have different capabilities and speeds.

I hate to point to Wikipedia, but it's a reasonable place to start for this sort of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browser_engines

In particular, have a look at "comparison of web browsers" and "comparison of layout engines" links at the bottom of the page.

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@Chris_Y

Good info! Its amazing to see the huge decline of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and the huge increase of Google Chrome. Interesting that Opera is following the blink webkit now, so both chrome and opera are based on blink.

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Opera were forced to bring back their non-Webkit version after a bit of a backlash (although I doubt they are developing it further)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser.classic

Pretty much every web browser on Android has a Webkit core, so choosing between them is purely a case of "what user interface do I like best?". A bit of choice and competition is a good thing, generally.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Yes, I realize that. Nothing but good about the Friedens, as I said

Indeed maybe to much hay on their stick as we say in holland (but obviously in dutch....)

To little time and to much to do.

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OWB for OS4 is dead in the water (for now atleast) Timberwolf doesnt exactly run wonderfull on my SAM and doesnt have a native GUI AND it seems to lack behind firefox aswel. Chrome isnt a Windows browser, it has a MAC version aswel.

odyssey for os4 (which i what you are reffering to i guess) is dead in the water because none works at porting the current version. and this probably because the priority was put on timberwolf which is likely as dead in the water as much as os4 odyssey for the time being.

now why do you want to have work started form the scratch on a browser that uses the same engine as odyssey but has a different (foreign) gui just like tiomberwolf/firefox. wouldnt that be more reasonable to push the updated version of odssey?

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Timberwolf is not dead in the water so i suggest you guys ask instead of just misquoting or FUD'ding the ones who ain't in the loop.

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odyssey for os4 (which i what you are reffering to i guess) is dead in the water because none works at porting the current version. and this probably because the priority was put on timberwolf which is likely as dead in the water as much as os4 odyssey for the time being. now why do you want to have work started form the scratch on a browser that uses the same engine as odyssey but has a different (foreign) gui just like tiomberwolf/firefox. wouldnt that be more reasonable to push the updated version of odssey?

Sadly its loose - loose situation, since TW final seems to be distant dream at present priorities. TW was never promised to have MUI GUI as it has UI of its own. Hope once OS 4.2 is out TW and OO will be new priorities.

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