can i add Timberwolf and the Netbook status?

so, any news or update?

A few questions....

Who is working on 4.2?
How many programmers are working on it?
Is the GUI going to change somehow?

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Who is working on 4.2?

Hyperion.

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How many programmers are working on it?

Same number as on OS4.1.

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Is the GUI going to change somehow?

Hopefuly not.


Sorry for my "answers", I realy don´t know. And people who know (eg. ssolie), will not tell us, right now.

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Quote: Is the GUI going to change somehow? Hopefuly not.

Well I hope for some small improvements, workbench has not changed sense Workbench1.1 or some thing, things can be improved on, not saying rip it out replace it.

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workbench has not changed sense Workbench1.1

appWindow, appMenu, appIcon, AmiDock, Menu-Icon-ShowAll (try that on OS1.1!), 32bit icons, image on WB backdrop...

Realy nothing changed since 1985 (OS1.1 released).

In comparison to 3.1/3.9, sure, changes are small (overall Workbench paradigm is still the same).

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not saying rip it out replace it.

Exactly.

Well Ambient is open source same for Opus so there is no reason to have that old workbench.

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I remember they said that graphic subsystem is going to have a complete overhaul.

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Well Ambient is open source

Which is more or less useless, because you can't port Ambient to anything except MorphOS.

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Is that really true, MUI has been updated a number of times, there might be stuff that can't be suppered, but if some one tried they might get a long way.

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In regards to porting Ambient to another operating system, my lawyer Dan Hemrons has informed me that "as long as Amiga os4 allows for Ambient to be installed and MUI compatible products to be run, it will constitute 'unfair and parasitic competition' under German law."

Make of that what you will ;)

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Funny joke, but German law does count in the rest of the world, nor will can it be considered unfair if it was done by some one else, and if its not distributed whit the OS.

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Ambient is using APIs not available in OS4.

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Why, just think how boring the world would be.

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Do you realize you will not get any os4.2 pictures

imagine such kind of teaser like this would be

Having some spot on 4.2 could help in selling the remaining stock piece of hardware, AmigaOne x1000 and AmigaOne 500, and maybe convince the undecided.

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What would be longer to develop, the missing API or write a WB replacement from scratch...
But then again, I don't know if they've done anything regarding enhancing the WB.
They probably should use Dopus Magellan since it's Open Source now, but IIRC Greg Perry is not in love with Hyperion.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-43730.html

Kamelito

Where is that laptop....almost two year and nothing now, strange, unprofessional, funny...and at the end ...sad
Mysterious company behind project?

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I think it is better if workbench get improved, I don't see the need to port anything there are already a few workbench replacements, to name a few Scalos, Hyperbench, Dopus5, but I know there are more.

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I'm pretty sure easypocketmoney and/or TryTerra is/was behind the netbook project. And I have a hunch that they have difficulties in funding the AOS4 port.


from my post elsewhere:
http://amiga.easypocketmoney.com/limebook-ppc/Lime_Book_Purchase_Order_REV1.pdf

Not so easy to google if Limebook z9 is still in production...
http://www.bectrade.com/laptops/p106739-limebook-z9-laptop.html


I wish someone had money to order better netbook chip from verisilicon (PPC460 core + OpenGL2.0 GPU core, @ 800+Mhz)

(Some business guy like BillBuck (or TrevorD or PetroT,...) perhaps could put up a kickstarter project to get new PPC powered netbook, perhaps some power.org companies would be interested in donating.... I imagine some USD200...300 product could be possible .... with some 10 000+ unit initial production run.)

"VeriSilicon Projects with PowerPC
Project Name: CNCN1
• Process node: IBM Cu65LPe
• Status: TO
• No. of Cores: 1 PowerPC460 embedded
Project Name: SG9xx
• Process node: GF Cu65G
• Status: TO
• No. of Cores: 1 PowerPC460 embedded
Project Name: Axxxx
• Process node: IBM Cu08
• Status: TO
• No. of Cores: 1 PowerPC476 embedded
Project Name: Ix1600
• Process node: IBM Cu45
• Status: TO
• No. of Cores: 4 PowerPC476 embedded"

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SG9xx Game SOC Summary
Custom Silicon turn key service from specification @GF65G
PPC460 @800Mhz (up to 1GHz)
Embedded DSP (ZSP800) @600Mhz (up to 800MHz)
GPU @700Mhz (up to 900MHz)
400Mhz 64 bit AXI bus for high performance cores
200Mhz 32 bit AHB bus for Medium speed peripherals
2 GB maximum DDR2 memory /64-bit wide /Maximum data rate 800Mhz
Linux 2.6.3x/Linux 3.3.x
ppcdroid 2.3 ready
First silicon success!
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Even if it's an old interview Olsen said it should be done from scratch.
http://obligement.free.fr/articles_traduction/itwbarthel_en.php
Anyway PS4 will make my day for now :)
Kamelito