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I think we need a good abstraction, seeing how horrible the Windows support USB headsets, and how it effects stability when you plug in or plug out the headset, we need to think about stability and proper abstraction.

Applications most never crash when un-plugin a headset, if headset is unguled then default audio audio output should be used, and also I think we need a mixer that enables the users to volume for different programs, for example less volume on system sound then, music, and more voice audio the music etc, what I guess I'm saying is that we need a better mixer.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 06-May-2013 at 04:56 PM.

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I just wrote a LONG reply, then deleted it.

I have some plans, and I look forward to discussing them, but not here on the tail end of a eight year old thread on another subject. :)

I will answer some of your points directly:
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seeing how horrible the Windows support USB headsets

I make it a point to NEVER compare my work to Windows. I prefer to look up! :)

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Applications most never crash

Assuming you mean "must" we agree.

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headset is unguled then default audio audio output should be used

A few notes: The ability to re-direct an audio stream while it is streaming IN AHI is beyond my knowledge, and very possibly beyond the ability of AHI.

The old sound cards used contacts in the headphone jack to switch the rear in and out.
the new (hdaudio) way is to keep them as separate devices, and trust the software to switch back and forth when it sees plugs coming and going.

What WE are doing (now, at least) is letting the user choose any one of three possible outputs (headphone, line out, S/PDIF) or all three at once. We are NOT switching anything live when jack action is detected. It could be arranged, but not today.

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I think we need a mixer that enables the users to volume for different programs

Let's skip straight to the point: AHI is the standard. Anything we do to change AHI takes us away from compatibility with EVERYTHING. The more we change it, the less compatible it becomes.
And that is the part that is hardest to get around.

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I don't remember but is there not a problem whit OpenAL and 3D sound?

I haven't looked into but when you send multi channel 7.1 audio to AHI you send a stream of 32-bit long words. I think there are eight in full but the docs are slightly unclear. It explains in English but has no diagram.

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it be better if the mixer was in control of audio output,

I suppose AHI was geared more towards how the original audio chips worked. Where there was just one output device. The Mixer to me seems more like a PC thing as I had to deal with it on Linux and also in OS4 in SB drivers. I thought, why doesn't it just work like on a normal Amiga? Why doesn't AHI just pump it up to full volume by default?

But yes a Mixer should be able to control audio when needed without AHI messing up.

@number6

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Even if Davy Wentzler was still around, AE had a dependency:

I am aware it used VST effects which AHI doesn't support. AHI being basically a transport medium between samples and your sound card.

But that wxWidgets is another issue. It's not a native GUI and trying to use AmiCygnix would just ruin it. We would need a wxWidgets ports that works as well as MUI.

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Found a thread with a few specifics from a discussion between Davy and someone who wanted to do professional work. I'll let you decide if the info is still relevant today:

I think it would be if we still have this problem. Obviously this needs to be set in an Advanced setting where algorithm and volume levels can be set.

Why there isn't a normal zero center panning I don't know.