So I read on here that MIDI is possible on the AmigaOne if you have an emu10kx-based sound card. So last month I went to Best Buy and spent about $125 on a Soundblaster Audigy 2LS sound card that does 7.1 sound -- JUST so I could do MIDI! Most expensive MIDI interface I ever bought, but heck, for 7.1, that's about half of what my Prelude cost me!

Sure enough, the MIDI works. Awesome!

The thing is...I'm suspecting that the Audigy is interfering with the µA1's built-in sound, as I just can't seem to record from the built-in CMI8738.

Sooooooooo.......is it possible at this point to use the µA1's built-in joystick port for MIDI??? If at all possible, I'd just like to ditch the Audigy all together, as 1) I'm only really using it for MIDI, 2) the AHI drivers for it don't work properly, and 3) it doesn't even fit in the case properly.

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@dauber

I'm eager to be able to use MIDI on my A1XE-system (which is being fixed on due to a dead CPU-card). I have an Audigy 2 ZS Gamer card, and i believe with the provided CAMD-drivers available at OS4Depot, it should be possible to use the MIDIs...

God, i want to make MIDI-music with OctaMED SoundStudio. Hope to see the new version for AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4

@Helgis

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Helgis wrote: @dauber I'm eager to be able to use MIDI on my A1XE-system (which is being fixed on due to a dead CPU-card). I have an Audigy 2 ZS Gamer card, and i believe with the provided CAMD-drivers available at OS4Depot, it should be possible to use the MIDIs...

Change "should be" to "definitely is," as that's exactly what I do. But I'd rather use the built-in sound card on my µA1...

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@dauber

The built-in soundchip could be very good for that, but so is the EMU10K-engine, too

@Helgis

Have you recorded anything with your Audigy??? I've had some AHI issues with it that I've been in contact with Davy Wentzler about. The driver that's publicly available has a problem in that it records 1) too slow and 2) only in 8 bits! Davy fixed the problem and e-mailed me a new driver, but for me it's only recording the left half of the stereo. (The old driver picks up both.) Davy says he can't replicate the problem.

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@dauber

I haven't been able to test the MIDI-features, but i will when my A1XE is fixed, and replaced with the new 1.3Ghz G4 CPU-card i have been ordering

@Helgis

Yes, but what about the audio recording features?? Have you tried to run anything through the audio input and actually recrod it???

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@dauber

I was only using samples. Haven't tried so much..but i will in due time..i will...

@Helgis:

I've used midi on my A1 with the demo of HD-rec. Unfortunately, due to
the two save limit, I haven't done much. however, I just downloaded
the new HD-Rec 'lite' and am going to experiment with it tomorrow.

I'm not sure what the limitations are compared to the full version but
I'll let you know.

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@dauber

Yes please, let me know when you have successed in it

@dauber

You could have bought a simple SB Live if all you wanted is MIDI ofcourse.
The Audigy is not interfering with the CMI on-board, it can't. I explained you a couple of weeks ago that the 3 connectors at the back are all outputs, or did you try something through the header on the board itself? Since Alan himself tried that succesfully.

But no, it's not possible yet to use the mA1's built-in joystick port.
Regarding the volumes and routing on the Audigy2: I've spent a lot of hours on it last weekend and I can only seem to control the PCM volume yet. I have a little bit more information today, but don't get your hopes up too much. I'll try some more tomorrow.

Davy

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@DaveAE

Nonono, I haven't touched the ports on the back; I know they're all outputs. I'm only using the front.

Now...the reason I think the Audigy is interfering is that the mixer itself keeps defaulting to the Audigy, know what I'm saying? Even after removing the AHI drivers for the Audigy, the Mixer still kept defaulting to the Audigy...even after deleting all occurences of ahi.prefs from env: and sys:prefs/env-archive. Thinking maybe the only way to get the mixer to default to the CMI8738 is to remove the Audigy physically.

Also...the SoundBlaster Live doesn't have a MIDI port, does it? I do remember looking at those in Best Buy and all they had were audio ins and outs; nothing for MIDI.

BTW -- the mixer won't save the CMI8738 settings...

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@dauber

The live doesn't have a dedicated midi port (except the platinum), however the live's
joystick port functions as a midi port with one of those cheap adapter cables.

C Snyder

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@dauber

I have "volunteered" to write CAMD MIDI drivers for the uA1. To that end I've collected a lot of documents and I'm just having a blast so far.
While gameport MIDI drivers are generally easy to write, I'm having some trouble understanding the PCI portion of expansion.library, and how to use it to get from here to there.
CAMD is no problem, as I'm quite familiar with how it works, and I've written a few drivers for the classic Amigas.

ANYWAY.. My current plan is as follows:
Since I'm not doing well with the gameport driver, I'm distracting myself with
a USB MIDI driver first. It's not "universal", but should work with any port that complies with the
"USB device class spec for MIDI devices". Of course a list of tested devices will be formed somewhere.

Once that is working, I plan on returning to the gameport driver for a fresh attempt.

Since I have taken this opportunity to declare my ignorance of PCI expansion to the general public, I'm open for pointers if anyone wants to display their superiority by teaching me something.

That's the plan anyway.
Feel free to offer support, occasionally ask for progress reports, or supercede my work by doing it yourself.

LyleHaze

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@lylehaze

the popular $40 m-Audio midisport uno
1X1 has the firmware installed from a
driver CD, so in linux, one must run
the installer, cancel it during install,
and fetch the dll file from the windoze
\temp directory...so if you will support this
one, now you know...maybe you can port
the linux firmware installer found @ google
...I'll bet you could make up some Triple Play
units based on X number of requests-
pre-orders, maybe even put a bundle
together...to finance your coding habit...

8')

@glokraw

The Uno uses device-specific USB drivers, and is not compatible with the published class definition.
I know this because I bought one assuming that everything would work within the "standard".
I have an Uno now and it's useless to me, unless I attach it to my winblows machine.
Unless, of course, M-Audio gives me all the specs, but it still won't be first on my list.

I then wrote a letter to the DWG at usb.org, and recently got a reply from the Manager of Technical relations at Roland Corp.
He was very helpful in showing me compatible products from both his company and his competitors.
The interface he suggested as a "reference standard" is a bit out of my price range right now, and I really don't need an 8X8 anyway,
but maybe later I'll buy one.
My initial driver will be done on an interface that's about the same price as an Uno, but will work with the standard driver.
Later I'll get a bigger interface to test multiport features.

I'm going to keep quiet about which models are supported until the code is running, as I don't want anyone to spend money on something that I can't support.
When I've got the driver running here, I'll put out a call for betatesters to help me build a compatibility list.

I can't wait. My "next" interface should arrive next week.

The "Triple Play" worked by splitting a single MIDI stream between 3 (or 4)
ports. You got "more channels", but no more bandwidth. Since the serial port
of all AOnes are now built using "normal" hardware BRG's, MIDI via serial.device
will no longer work, unless by a serial port on the synth (not MIDI ports)

It would be possible to adapt Classic Amiga MIDI interfaces to the gameport
MIDI connections, but "regular" gameport MIDI cables can be had for US $15,
so why bother?

My intent regarding the USB MIDI driver is to support Multiple port interfaces,
as well as multiple interfaces, for reasonably unlimited MIDI I/O ability.
Yes, a CAMD patchbay will be required to manage all those ports. I've got
one I wrote a few years ago for Bill Bartons midi.library that should adapt
easily, if I can get the old source off the SCSI drive on my A1000.

First things first.. USB MIDI class drivers, then uA1-Gameport..
Then enjoy the accomplishments before choosing the next goal.

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@bigsnyder

Okay....check this out:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuid=6830637&type=product&id=1091101682150

Where's the game/joystick connector?

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@dauber

All SB Live models have a gameport that functions as MIDI port AFAIK.
The mixer will save your cmi settings, but the Audigy settings can interfere (not the hardware itself). Mixer has its own settings file, IIRC (i'm not at home now) it's just in ENVARC: . Look for something like Mixer.prefs and delete it.

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@lylehaze

Note that IMHO native drivers won't work with the 68k CAMD. And for a native CAMD we probably need to change a bit how drivers are loaded (the sane way). I sent you my ported CAMD sources a while back. Did you get anywhere with it?

Dave

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@DaveAE

Actually I'm way ahead of you -- but the "Mixer.prefs" keeps reappearing. And yup, I'm deleting it from memory AND the hard drive...and it just won't ignore emu10kx...

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