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Mopemen 
Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
Posted on 28-Nov-2008 21:56:24
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Hi there!

Nice one for the weekend:

Last time the Grim Reaper pays me a visit more than I like.
Most of the time soon after booting OS4.1 the "TCP/IP Control" crashes with a DSI. Does anybody have an idea where I can start trouble shooting?

A snip of the crashlog:
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Crash log for task "TCP/IP Control"Generated by GrimReaper 52.7
Crash occured in module bsdsocket.library at address 0x7FD5FE50
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception


Is the bsdsocket.library damaged or is it something else?

After I tried to instal the lpr.device to get my networkprinter online (which gave me no success) the system became instable. Any clues?

Thanks in advance!

Maurice

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
Posted on 28-Nov-2008 22:43:33
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@Mopemen

I've never seen that in the years I've had an microA1, on any version of 4/4.1 sorry can't help!

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
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@Mopemen

Without knowing which network device and hardware you're using and without a full crashlog nobody will be able to help. Please post the required information. Also if it happens since you installed lpr device try removing it again and see what happens. Do the same with other software you may have installed before the crash happens.

Btw it's very unlikely that lpr device would make your system unstable as I know others who are using lpr on their a1 without any problems.

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
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@Mopemen

Sorry Maurice, can't say I've ever seen a DSI with TCP/IP on my Micro with either OS4.0 or 4.1? As already suggested post your crashlog and someone may be able to shed some light on your problem?

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@Mopemen

use http://crashlog.os4depot.net/ to post your full crashlog and link it here with your full spec of your system.

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@Mopemen

In the past I used to have random TCP/IP crashes until I found out that it was caused by the fact that I had more than one file in SYS:DEVS/NetInterfaces . Deleting all the files except the one with the connection datas I use for Internet solved the problem.

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
Posted on 29-Nov-2008 15:54:55
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Ok, I wasn't aware of the crashlog section of OS4depot.
Here is the crashlog so please have look.

@Cyborg

No hardware was added to the A1 so it must be a software issue.
I also removed the lpr.device.
It's hard to say which software is bugging because I was reinstalling my software after a clean install.


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@Mopemen

Thanks. I don't have time right now to investigate further, but I doubt it's a general problem with Roadshow or eth3com because you seem to be the only one having that problem.

Could you try with a plain system please? I.e. without anything in WBStartup, without user-startup and without any 3rd party stuff in startup-sequence.

Also check that only 1 file is in devs:NetInterfaces for your interface. Maybe you could also post the contents of your interface file?

Oh and *don't* use 'run' or any NIL: redirection for AddNetInterface in your startup-sequence so you can actually see if there are any problems.

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
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@Cyborg

Because it crashes soon after startup I looked in the WBstartup and the only program which is using network/internet was WET (version 5.3).
I moved WET out of the WBstartup drawer.
After that my time was up so I didn't have any time to test if this was the problem. If it was WET, the crash should occur when I manually start the program.
This would be strange because WET didn't gave any trouble before. And like you said, It seems that I'm the only one with this issue...

The system was stable before I tried to get my printer working, so I still thinks it has to be something related to that.
I can reinstall OS4.1 to look if the issue shows up again.
I think I've a spare SATA(N) disk laying around, so I can compare the two intallations.

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n the past I used to have random TCP/IP crashes until I found out that it was caused by the fact that I had more than one file in SYS:DEVS/NetInterfaces .

You're sure about that? I just checked my DEVS:NetInterfaces and look what I found: both ET3COM and ethernet residing there, side by side without any animosity!

I use a µA1 since december 2004 and have upgraded all the way upto and including OS4.1 and in all iterations I had those two files sitting there. What's more: I even use lpr.device. It works perfectly!

Maybe I'm the luckiest man in the world?

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because I was reinstalling my software after a clean install

On an Amiga? You're sure you're not mixing up with Windows, do you? Reinstalling software after a clean install! What has this world come to.

Shaking head, mumbling softly.

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
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Quote:

OldFart wrote:
@Varthall

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n the past I used to have random TCP/IP crashes until I found out that it was caused by the fact that I had more than one file in SYS:DEVS/NetInterfaces .

You're sure about that? I just checked my DEVS:NetInterfaces and look what I found: both ET3COM and ethernet residing there, side by side without any animosity!


It's possible that older versions of eth3com.device could run into trouble if the same device driver was opened twice by different network interface config files. Hm... come to think of it, that's something which bsdsocket.library may even be unprepared to handle altogether. I wouldn't expect crashes, but lost packets, though.

Quote:

I use a µA1 since december 2004 and have upgraded all the way upto and including OS4.1 and in all iterations I had those two files sitting there. What's more: I even use lpr.device. It works perfectly!

Maybe I'm the luckiest man in the world?

OldFart


Could be, but keep your crash helmet on just in case

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Re: Crashing "TCP/IP Control" on OS4.1 (uA1)
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Hm, how come I have those two files there? Have to find out, but for the time being, which one should I have there?

EDIT:
My empyrical nature taught me to have ETH3COM included. Ofcourse that was the one I first kicked out...

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Last edited by OldFart on 01-Dec-2008 at 04:36 PM.

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As long as AISS4.3, a registered version of DvPlayer and Hollywood3 are not included in OS4.1 by default, you have to reinstall them..

Shaking head, mumbling softly.

I've also got 2 devices in my SYS:DEVS/NetInterfaces drawer. So I think it is placed there when I was installing (not mixing up with windows) OS4.1.
If you're doing a clean install like I did, you can be sure that it is not a left over from a previous version of OS4.x.

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If you're doing a clean install like I did, you can be sure that it is not a left over from a previous version of OS4.x.

I'm ALLWAYS doing clean installs! It only takes a mere 250Mb, so what the heck! This means indeed that I have about 5 or 6 versions of OS4.x present. But, in all those years, I can't remember installing any app anew, because of a new iteration of the OS. And, yes, I do have registered apps like DvPlayer and WordWorth and TurboCalc and MindSpace.

Hang on, you don't install those apps in the same partition as the OS, do you??? No need to! It's not Windows, remember...

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@OldFart

How do you tell AISS to install on an other partiotion than on SYS:?
How do you prevent Hollywood3 to integrate with your OS?

You don't.

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You're wrong here, at least partially. I do not have any experience with Hollywood, but on my system AISS resides ONLY on (non-bootable) ExtSYS: and is activated from whatever OS iteration I fancy booting in (I admit that I do have a rather weird, but equally clever setup).
You may well underestimate one of the Amiga's strongest points, namely that of 'Assigns'. I know that AISS by default tries to install on SYS:, but I provided the author with a modified install script that allows for a different location to install that package. The modification has been sanctioned by the author.

And I heavily doubt that the installation of Hollywood only succeeds on SYS:. Such behaviour would be utter unamigaish.

Resume: it can be done! It's an Amiga.

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@olsen

Hm, how come I have those two files there? Have to find out, but for the time being, which one should I have there?


Search me... When the original driver was built the first config file was named after it. It's possible that you just kept it as part of your installation as you upgraded to a more recent operating system version. I don't know how the current operating system version calls the ethernet config file, but it might be that it's just called "Ethernet". Could you check what's in these configuration files? I know that the "eth3com" configuration file references eth3com.device, but what's in the "Ethernet" file?

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I know that the "eth3com" configuration file references eth3com.device, but what's in the "Ethernet" file?

'Ethernet' contains this:


# DEVS:NetInterfaces/ethernet
# File generated by Internet 52.1 (10.12.2006)
# On vrijdag, 23-feb-07 at 09:27:23
device=ppp-ethernet.device
hardwaretype=PPP
address=192.168.1.102
netmask=255.255.255.0
mtu=0


This is the very file I removed from DEVS:NetInterfaces and put into Storage/NetInterfaces.

Hope this answers your question.

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Can you take a look at DHCP ip address renewal, it does not work or work poorly her.

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