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Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 11:20:18
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How can I use and setup properly to use my USB joypad with E-UAE for example?

I tried before but after configuring my CD32 joypad it wasn't recognized by WarpSNES if I remember.

What is better to use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final or in Amiga OS4.1?

Help is really appreciated because I need to use my gamepad with WarpSNES and more.

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 11:28:38
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@newlight

No AmigaInput is not part of AmigaOS4.0 Final.
AmigaInput is found in AmigaOS4.0 update 4 and AmigaOS4.1.
AmigaOS4.0 update 4 has a buggy version of AmigaInput.
I'm also supriced you are not using july update of AmigaOS4.0,
oh yes It does not have AmigaInput
July update is need to run OWB.

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 12:26:59
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Yes I know AmigaInput is on OS4 update 4 CD!

But I tried before and it doesn't seem the work it may be buggy as you say.



I am not using OS4 Final only I have OS4 Final+July update.

Is there as way to setup the OS4 update 4 CD AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final+July or not?

And is it easy to install a dual boot system containing OS4 Final+OS4.1?
Is there a guide for it?

I want to buy OS4.1 but I will go for a dual boot system with OS4 Final and OS4.1.

July update is great!!!

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 14:42:36
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---------- AmigaInput ------------

2.Workbench 4.1:Libs/AmigaInput> dir
Generic_Keyboard.driver Generic_Mouse.driver
Generic_usb.driver PCI_GamePort.driver
PCI_GamePortHornet.driver PCI_sblive.pci
PCI_Soundcard.driver PCI_SoundCardHornet.driver

2.Workbench 4.1:Libs> dir AmigaInput#?
Workbench 4.1:Libs/AmigaInput (dir)
AmigaInput.library

2.Workbench 4.1:Prefs> dir AmigaInput#?
AmigaInput AmigaInput.info

4.Workbench 4.1:> dir ENVARC:Sys/AmigaInput/
AmigaInput.prefs AmigaInput.prefs.info Generic_usb_0.prefs
LowLevel.prefs LowLevel.prefs.info

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 14-Dec-2008 at 02:45 PM.
Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 14-Dec-2008 at 02:44 PM.

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 14:51:02
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--- Multiboot ---

4.Workbench 4.1:Kickstart> dir
Final (dir)
OS4.1 (dir)
Final.info Kicklayout Kicklayout.info OS4.1.info

4.Workbench 4.1:Kickstart/Final> dir
3dfxVoodoo.chip a1floppy.device.kmod
a1ide.device.kmod ATIRadeon.chip
battclock.resource.kmod biosversion.resource.kmod
BootDevice BootDevice.info
bootkeyboard.usbfd bootmenu.kmod
bootmouse.usbfd CDFileSystem
con-handler.kmod console.device.kmod
diskboot.config diskboot.kmod
diskcache.library.kmod dos.library.kmod
elf.library.kmod env-handler.kmod
FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource.kmod
gadtools.library.kmod gameport.device.kmod
graphics.library.kmod hub.usbfd
hunk.library.kmod input.device.kmod
intuition.library.kmod it8212ide.device.kmod
kernel kernel.debug
keyboard.device.kmod keymap.library.kmod
layers.library.kmod loader
lsi53c8xx.device.kmod newlib.library.kmod
nonvolatile.library.kmod nvram.resource.kmod
PCIGraphics.card petunia.library.kmod
ps2.resource.kmod ram-handler.kmod
ramdrive.device.kmod ramlib.kmod
rtg.library shell.kmod
sii0680ide.device.kmod sii3112ide.device.kmod
sii3114ide.device.kmod sii3512ide.device.kmod
SmartFileSystem strap.kmod
timer.device.kmod uhci.usbhcd
usbresource.library usbsys.device

4.Workbench 4.1:Kickstart/OS4.1> dir
3dfxVoodoo.chip 3DLabsPermedia2.chip
a1floppy.device.kmod a1ide.device.kmod
ATIRadeon.chip battclock.resource.kmod
biosversion.resource.kmod bootimage
bootkeyboard.usbfd bootmenu.kmod
bootmouse.usbfd CDFileSystem
con-handler.kmod console.device.kmod
diskboot.config diskboot.kmod
diskcache.library.kmod dos.library.kmod
elf.library.kmod env-handler.kmod
FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource.kmod
gadtools.library.kmod gameport.device.kmod
graphics.library.kmod hub.usbfd
hunk.library.kmod input.device.kmod
intuition.library.kmod it8212ide.device.kmod
JXFileSystem kernel
kernel.debug keyboard.device.kmod
keymap.library.kmod layers.library.kmod
loader lsi53c8xx.device.kmod
massstorage.usbfd newlib.library.kmod
nonvolatile.library.kmod nvram.resource.kmod
ohci.usbhcd PCIGraphics.card
petunia.library.kmod ps2.resource.kmod
ram-handler.kmod ramdrive.device.kmod
ramlib.kmod rtg.library
shell.kmod sii0680ide.device.kmod
sii3112ide.device.kmod sii3114ide.device.kmod
sii3512ide.device.kmod SmartFileSystem
strap.kmod timer.device.kmod
uhci.usbhcd usbresource.library
usbsys.device

--- The kicklayout file ---

; $VER: Kicklayout_AmigaOne 53.1 (16.7.2006)
; Kernel configuration for the AmigaOne
;
;
;
; This file describes how the "Kickstart" image should look like,
; i.e. it describes which modules should be pre-loaded and available
; at boot time.
;
;
; Format:
; ~~~~~~
; The file lists one or more configurations.
;
; Each configuration starts with the LABEL keyword, followed by the
; name of the configuration. The name can be used to specify the
; configuration in the bootloader tool (see Documentation/kernel/
; bootloader.txt). Note that empty lines end one configuration and
; start the next, which means that you must be careful not to leave
; an empty line anywhere unless you are defining multiple configurations.
;
; Each configuration must have exactly one line with the EXEC keyword.
; This specifies the filename of the main kernel to use. This kernel is
; the absolute minimum required to boot. It contains, among other things,
; exec.library.
;
; The following lines define additional modules to be loaded into the
; kickstart image. Each of these lines starts with the MODULE keyword
; followed by the filename of the module.
;
;
;
;
; Configuration name
LABEL AmigaOS4.1
; Exec name
EXEC Kickstart/OS4.1/loader
;
; PPC native modules
;
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/kernel
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/FastFileSystem
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/SmartFilesystem
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/JXFileSystem
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/a1floppy.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/a1ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/battclock.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/biosversion.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/bootmenu.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/bootimage
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/CDFileSystem
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/con-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/console.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/diskboot.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/diskboot.config
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/diskcache.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/dos.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/elf.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/env-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/FileSystem.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/gadtools.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/gameport.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/graphics.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/hunk.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/input.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/intuition.library.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/it8212ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/keyboard.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/keymap.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/layers.library.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/lsi53c8xx.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/newlib.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/nonvolatile.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/nvram.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ps2.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ram-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ramdrive.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ramlib.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/shell.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/sii0680ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/sii3112ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/sii3114ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/sii3512ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/strap.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/timer.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/rtg.library
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/PCIGraphics.card
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ATIRadeon.chip
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/3dfxVoodoo.chip
;MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/3DLabsPermedia2.chip
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/petunia.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/usbresource.library
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/usbsys.device
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/uhci.usbhcd
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/hub.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/bootmouse.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/bootkeyboard.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/massstorage.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/OS4.1/ohci.usbhcd
;
; Configuration name
LABEL AmigaOS4.0 Final
; Exec name
EXEC Kickstart/Final/loader
;
; PPC native modules
;
MODULE Kickstart/Final/kernel
MODULE Kickstart/Final/FastFileSystem
MODULE Kickstart/Final/SmartFilesystem
MODULE Kickstart/Final/a1floppy.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/a1ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/battclock.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/biosversion.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/bootmenu.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/CDFileSystem
MODULE Kickstart/Final/con-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/console.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/diskboot.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/diskboot.config
MODULE Kickstart/Final/diskcache.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/dos.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/elf.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/env-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/FileSystem.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/gadtools.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/gameport.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/graphics.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/hunk.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/input.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/intuition.library.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/it8212ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/keyboard.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/keymap.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/layers.library.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/lsi53c8xx.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/newlib.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/nonvolatile.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/nvram.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/ps2.resource.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/ram-handler.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/ramdrive.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/ramlib.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/shell.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/sii0680ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/sii3112ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/sii3114ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/sii3512ide.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/strap.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/timer.device.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/rtg.library
MODULE Kickstart/Final/PCIGraphics.card
MODULE Kickstart/Final/ATIRadeon.chip
;MODULE Kickstart/Final/3dfxVoodoo.chip
MODULE Kickstart/Final/petunia.library.kmod
MODULE Kickstart/Final/usbresource.library
MODULE Kickstart/Final/usbsys.device
MODULE Kickstart/Final/uhci.usbhcd
MODULE Kickstart/Final/hub.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/Final/bootmouse.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/Final/bootkeyboard.usbfd
MODULE Kickstart/Final/BootDevice

--- boot priorities ---

dh0: (AmigaOS4.1) boot priorities 0
dh1: (AmigaOS4.0 Final+July) boot priorities -1

4.Workbench 4.1:Kickstart/Final> type BootDevice
DH1

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 16:24:11
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Great information you give me!!!



Can you make a quick resume of the steps I have to do in order to install OS4.0 and OS4.1 together?

I consider to install update#4 to have three different versions of AmigaOS on my AmigaOne.I suppose the steps are similar and the only thing I will have to do is to put OS4 update#4 on DH2: and edit the Kicklayout as with your example no?

I think now I know why last year when I configured the Kicklayout to boot Final and update#4 it didn't work.Because I had both OSes in two dirs but in the same partition which was DH0!!!What a mistake but I followed the instructions of some forum probably on this site.The result was noone of the systems booting at all at least update#4 (this probably didn't boot) and Final booted but with strange and poorly coloured Workbench probably touching the graphics configuration part for some reason.This was more than a year ago.

If you make a schematic resume I will be very grateful with you.Give me a step by step of your last explanation and if I am clear I will definetely go for the installation of at least two AmigaOS if I buy OS4.1,OK?

I want to be sure of the advantages and new functions of OS4.1 before I buy it but I am very tentated to buy it.It seems to be very cool and advanced but the photos are not the same as the monitor you use.Anyway it looks and seems wonderful!!

Many thanks for your exhaustive explanation!!!

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
Posted on 14-Dec-2008 16:44:55
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@newlight

1) All the kickstart files most be on a boot partition whit hiest boot priority.
2) move the files in to sub directory's
3) Change the kicklayout file.
4) create the BootDevice file 3 chars no enter symbols.
5) use negative boot value on partitions, this is importent becouse if you use positive values, you might not be able to boot from your install cd again.

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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

That' enough information to make Dual boot on 5 steps?





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Re: Can I use AmigaInput on OS4.0 Final?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

I have done all the steps you give me here and the results are poor.
I only can boot OS4.1 and tried 3 or 4 configurations and Final boot but it gives and error of USBControl version and later stay at the Workbench4.1 screen desktop so I can't use it as it request gadgets and other things from OS4.1.
Update 4 shows black screen and doesn't boot only the Kickstart files.
And Update 1 only reach to the point of loading the Kickstart modules,no black
screen or WB one at all.

I make all partitions SFS/00,formated and installed on each one the corresponding OS.Edited the Kicklayout for all partitions and saved to OS4.1/Kickstart.And I putted a BootDevice module at the end of each configuration on the Kicklayout and later edited a file named BootDevice for Final,Update4 and Update1,that's is DH1,DH2 and DH3 for each one copied on its corresponding dir.
And important thing is that first I used the slb2 coming on OS4.1 CD and now I am using the one that is on OS4 Prerelease CD as it supports SFS and Linux.
About this what are the differences between these two and what filesystems support each one?

I am thinking about creating my new partitions for OS4.1 and I suppose that for all if this works at all.I like SFS but what are the differences between SFS and the new JXFS of AmigaOS4.1?

Thanks for your help and support.

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@newlight

Quote:
I make all partitions SFS/00,formated and installed on each one the corresponding OS.Edited the Kicklayout for all partitions and saved to OS4.1/Kickstart.And I putted a BootDevice module at the end of each configuration


Yes you will get a problem whit your setup update 1 and update 4 does not support bootdevice.

So do like this

update 1 bootpri -1
update 4 bootpri 0, and put all kickfiles her.
update final, bootpri -1 and use FInal/bootdevice
AmigaOS4, bootpri -1 and use OS41/bootdevice.

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@newlight

To boot in to update 1, you need to press 'Scroll Lock' when you boot, select 'select boot device' from kickstart menu.

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