Rumors of a new Xbox Surface

ARM as in a dual ARM 7.0" tablet

PLUS

Central Unit PPC
- Dual Power 7 with 6 active cores each, 3Ghz and 4 threads / core
-5GB DDR3

Graphics
- 1,100 stream processors at 1.15Ghz
- 1.4GB GDDR5

No sign of X86 however.

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@BrianK

That spec is well, odd.

It's written oddly, has some odd specs and at least one glaring error.

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@minator

You asked a question and day later Microsoft answered. You have mad skillz bro!

ARM based Surface Tablets made by Microsoft.

Unfortunately, nothing about a new Xbox. That's okay though. Microsoft should focus first on Windows 8 Christmas 2012 and they can then focus Christmas 2013 or 2014 on the next Xbox. I think Microsoft has the size and power that they could announce the 3rd Xbox in June and ship the console in Nov of the same year.

XBox 720 info in this thread was originally dated 2010, and likely nothing more than them throwing ideas against the wall.

@Duce

one would think they would be well into planning/testing phase for something which is supposed to be launched later this or early next year...

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@WolfToTheMoon

Rumors abound that a handful of developers have the 3rd Xbox in house for testing and feedback. This happened with the 2nd Xbox and the Gears of War developers requested and got more memory. And subsequently made 3 very fun games.

Aye, there's likely a bunch of truth in that leaked info, but a lot can occur in 2 years. Truth is, there's been a number of people with more recent info on the 720 that say much has changed since the 2010 leaked documentation. I've got no doubts they will pile a bunch of processors of different types into the machine, it only makes sense, but those specs in that leaked documentation would be ungodly expensive. Rumor is now they may be offering different spec'ed 720's, some with lesser hardware components to keep the costs down, and an "Ultimate" one for the gaming gearheads. I can't see that as being worth their time, seems like a heck of a way to fragment what is the strength of consoles - universal hardware. I'm sure the 720 will have oodles of grunt CPU power, they are going to need it if the Kinect 2 rumors are true.

For an example of MS shooting big and scoring small, you can find PR info from a few years ago in which they were insisting the Microsoft Surface tables would be in widespread usage worldwide, in all places of business, in every school, and even in people's homes. Just like Google stated 6 months ago that 50% of televisions released this year would contain Google TV, it just never materialized.

The below is a Microsoft Surface Table (now referred to as PixelSense), and I'll bet a greenback most people didn't ever hear of the darned things, let alone see one, despite MS claiming they would be fairly ubiquitous by 2012. I saw one once in a hotel lobby and it locked up the moment I touched it, lol.

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@tommywright

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Sorry but that article is complete BS.

The article Microsoft had taken down on the grounds of copyright infringement?

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So this week we saw not only Microsoft Surface but the new Windows Phone8. Both, no suprise, are built upon the NT Kernel. The 360, again, is built upon the NT Kernel. As are Windows8 desktops and Windows2012 servers. I think it a safe bet the Xbox3 will be built upon the NT Kerenel. Retargeting an app across devices should be fairly 'easy' with a common Kernel and library set. Direct X11 will do a good job retargeting resolutions for different screen sizes.

Here's more info on the Microsoft Copyright take down.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=24987
First slide indicates 'Dedicated 360 gaming hardware'. If so the 3rd Xbox is unlikely to be a transition from the current hardware, but enough stuff that the 360 is thought to be better 'emulated' on it's own hardware. Now that the 360 is a single chip it's fairly inexpensive for Microsoft to do this. (One can only imagine if Sony embeds a PS3 into a PS4 in a similar fashion the cost to be significantly higher than Microsoft's.)

In today's age I wonder about these 'leaks'. If I were a Project Manager at a certain phase wouldn't a timed leak be adventageous? Leak it then demand it come down. Then watch gaming and entertainement message boards. What does the market see as 'good' or 'bad'. There's probably time in the next few months to make some minor tweaks. Or start building your plan for the post-lauch upgrades. (Now I'm not saying Microsoft or Apple or anyone uses or did use this. I'm just musing at a thought of using social design for 'free' while building a product.)

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minator wrote: @tommywright Quote: Sorry but that article is complete BS. The article Microsoft had taken down on the grounds of copyright infringement?

And the article which was confirmed as now actually being correct (even though it was several years old).

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@tommywright

You have stated that twice now, but the fact remains that Microsoft have confirmed its validity (the confirmation was in several newspapers in the past couple of days over here).

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@tommywright

most rubbish presentation ever and the least gamer core console ever, it tries everything the ps3 did but at the same time they stab their gamer in the back.

also Microsoft stated for many years that they would never use Bluray.. guess what... Xbox One use bluray and the most funny thing is that it ain't supporting the latest tech so yet again gamers will suffer, i won't talk about the mem speed but yes they did tell that it uses an older type compared to their competetion (playstation).

it can only get better from here but it doesn't bound well when they had to have an press event 2 times after the actual reveal just in order to try and explain themselves better because of all the confusion but they failed to do so...

I have been a PS fan since day 1 but after all the fuss and mess Sony did with the ps3 (otherOS, hack bla bl) i have somewhat been thinking about getting an xbox the next gen but after this reveal of the Xbox One... i can safely say that i will stay with Sony's console.

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@Toaks

I will be staying with the Sony console as well... and I am hoping that with a hack I can run linux on it... it would be a pretty awesome linux machine, no?

You can just imagine the annoying scene... brother and sister bickering in the lounge. Brother tries to play game, sister shouts "Xbox Movie". Brother is dismayed. Brother shouts "Xbox Game"... so on and so forth...

How irritating to hear some one flicking through the "channels" always shouting Xbox this and Xbox that...

"Xbox - blow up!"

Poof...

Q!

"i am home"

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@tommywright

Good work on CoD Tommy! Keep it up. ;)

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by tommywright on 23-May-2013 1:26:43 P.S. Told ya so! NOW ask me how I knew.. go ahead.. ask me..

ummm taking a wild guess here but you've already been playing on the development boxes? :P

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@NovaCoder

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My 360 can already do HD graphics so what could the next Xbox offer?

HD is old hat. I wish I could afford a 4k display now. :) I would be surprised if they are not going to market 4k support though for the XB1, as it is available now and it will probably be more affordable during the XB1 lifetime.

Just joking, I just bought y first 1080 TV and it's great. I have an older front projector that only shoots 720 and am also very happy with that. 1080 on my 15inch laptop is so small it's hard to see, and Windows has not made me happy with font scaling settings other than default. (Lerger font text doesn't always fit properly into dialog boxes etc)

And eh, I replied to one of the old posts.

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well, microsoft did haev to wait 20 years for the home media centre computer patents for teh CDTV to expire, then come up with their own PC.


In 20 years, PCs, GPUs are roughly a million times more powerful. I dont see a thousand times the TV resolution at 10 times the speed. Or, even the AOS maximum suppoerted display driver of 16k*16k

Can the console use its $20 HDTV decode chip from the DVD player to play movies before you even boot teh system, like teh CDTV could play CDs with a full keyboard, mouse, and plug in controller controlled GUI front end?


I still say computer interfaces are difficult to code, because they are accurate, and not blurry.

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Oops.. Im sorry.. the Decode for HDTV these days costs about $5, thats how you have $20 Settop boxes. For $20, your chip can do Real Time HDTV Recording and Compression.

We now return you to the fractured time stream that is Aku.

Sorry, Microsoft.

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