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Daruish101 
THE GITS FROM MICROSFT ARE COPYING AMIGA OS!!!!
Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:12:22
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GUESS WHAT I READ AND HEARD!

Micorsoft are building a new OS from scratch, codenamed 'Singularity'. It is to be a stable OS.
Why would Microsoft start building a new OS from scratch! eh?

Microsoft know that Windows is crap, so they have to build a new OS from scratch, before Amiga.

Singularity will not have any connections with Windows, whatsoever. Microsoft know that Windows is s**t.

Read this:

'Singularity is a research project focused on the construction of dependable systems through innovation in the areas of systems, languages, and tools. We are building a research operating system prototype (called Singularity), extending programming languages, and developing new techniques and tools for specifying and verifying program behavior.'


Read this: http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/




' I am glad to know that Microsoft is working on new operating system from scratch. Singularity seems to be more reliable than Windows. However, Singularity won't replace Windows. It'll probably become an embedded OS and/or a server OS.

Perhaps, in the future, Windows (not Vista) may learn from Singularity and becomes more stable?'


Read this: http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2005/11/microsoft-is-building-new-os-from-scratch/#comment-15195

Last edited by Daruish101 on 18-Dec-2005 at 11:15 AM.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:16:21
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@Daruish101

Stupid name .

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opi 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:16:37
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@Daruish101

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Microsoft know that Windows is crap, so they have to build a new OS from scratch, before Amiga.


They can't do it before AmigaOS. They are "few" years late. Calling Windows crap is easy. Yet this crap is quite usable, even for me, UNIX guy.

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Singularity will not have any connections with Windows, whatsoever. Microsoft know that Windows is s**t.


Microsoft knows that they have manpower to build new OS (kernel and some userspace) that will suit some IT ecosystem (embedded?) better than it's old kernel.

You should mind your language, btw. It's not like your opinion is more accuare with "shit" all around.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:17:54
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@Daruish101

It's a research project and not ment to be a commercial project at this point. Several parts of this project are or will be used in Vista IIRC.

Not much to worry about at this point in time, MS wil not dump Windows for an unknown incompatible OS. That's suicide..

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15911&forum=17

Edit;

more here

Last edited by Seer on 18-Dec-2005 at 11:19 AM.
Last edited by Seer on 18-Dec-2005 at 11:19 AM.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 11:22:29
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Off the front page we go.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 14:49:15
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Outrageous, but not at all surprising. Not the first time Microsoft copied someone else's idea!

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Zardoz 
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@RoqueFort

I don't get it, in what way did they copy someone else's idea in this case?

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Anonymous 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 17:03:40
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@AMiGR and all

This is a very funny, dummish situation for Microsoft, even that it at the
end could turn out to be good for them

It will now be ironic for the Windows-lovers to realize that the AmigaOS
actually as an OS was and looking into AmigaOS 4, a superior, extremely
reliable, user-friendly and a very easy-of-use OS than Windows ever has
been! Microsoft might realize now, very late, that Windows is crap and
that they had to make a new OS from scratch - this one referred at here..

It's interesting that their new-born OS project will be more like an
Embedded-OS, very much like AmigaOS 4, so yes, they are COPYING the
AmigaOS!

Firstly, in the late 90s, PC copied the Amigas' advanced graphic and audio
features by adopting these features into PC-graphic and soundcards. Now they
even dare to try copying the contents of the AmigaOS 4 into this new OS
project, hoping to save them away from the failed Windows OS...

Think i gonna tell my old PC-friend about this He will turn green with
envy

Forgive me, but now i have to lollol

 
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Don't worry, but still it's funny to think that Microsoft now will
adopt the ideas from AmigaOS into this new OS-project by them

That's why i had to laugh

 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 19:27:14
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It is a research OS written in C#. Nothing that will show up on the radar any time soon.

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It will probably most end up in a galaxy, far far away in far, far away
time of our lives

 
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@Helgis

Yes... WHAT ideas? I can't see anything in the C# written Singularity project that even resembles AmigaOS.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 21:54:01
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@AMiGR

Singularity Technical Report
ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2005-135.pdf

Amiga like features :

Plugable schedular, with 4 schedulars,
1x Rialto schedular
1x multi-resource laxity- based schedular
1x Round Robin (degenerate case of Rialto schedular)
1x Preemptive minimum latency Round Robin schedular

Dynamic stack management

It is very clear Microsoft is closely monitoring Amiga OS progress and technical specifications.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 21:56:26
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@AMiGR

It's true it not mentioned there, but on the OS4 site, it says that
AmigaOS 4 is not just a desktop-OS, but very much an Embedded/Server-OS.
That is also the goal for AmigaOS 4...

My suspections are that Microsoft seems to know that the market is moving
more toward Embedded/Servers, and they seem to realize that Windows is crap
and something might be done to address these critical faulties...

Even if they're aware of it or not, they're copying many of Amigas' ideas.
Remember, in the middle of the 90s', PC hardware adopted the special graphic
and audio features the that made the Amiga so superior. Now, it seems that
Microsoft tries to copy much of the AmigaOSs' contents...

Take a look at the provided link, and also on the OS4 official site, then
look closely to see what AmigaOS 4 is meant to be, also

Think you'll be surprised to see where Microsoft might adopt their ideas
But the AmigaOS 4 will have the advance of being there first LONG before
this new OS from Microsoft ever might see the light of day!

 
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Do any of you guys remember that a person from Microsoft was working a while
for Amiga Inc? This guy might have come back to Microsoft and probably told
a little about AmigaOS. I'm not sure if this is the case. If that is, then
it could be illegal and they could be sued by Amiga Inc and Hyperion for
trying to copy the AmigaOS 4 contents without permission

 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 22:48:21
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@Helgis

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AmigaOS 4 is not just a desktop-OS, but very much an Embedded/Server-OS.


Sorry, AmigaOS is not an Server OS. It's not now, and it will be not in next 10 years. You simply have on idea about server OSes. Look what Sun, Linux and BSD family has to offer in terms of servers. AmigaOS don't even support basic network hardware, nor software. It lack basic stuff like multiuser support. It won't scale on dual-CPU, hack, it won't even support it.

Embedded, that's the other set of cards, yes -- it may fit there.

Helgis, a suggestion -- if you haven't run a simple server in your life, don't try to jude AmigaOS in this area.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 22:49:18
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@asymetrix
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It is very clear Microsoft is closely monitoring Amiga OS progress and technical specifications.

Sure. Maybe they will even remove memory protection, just to adopt Amigas technical specifications.

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and they seem to realize that Windows is crap


Yeah, thats what they must think when looking at their tiny market share.

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This guy might have come back to Microsoft and probably told a little of AmigaOS.
I'm not sure if this is the case.


Go for it, Detective Helgis!

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opi 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2005 22:52:11
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@asymetrix

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It is very clear Microsoft is closely monitoring Amiga OS progress and technical specifications.


Keep dreaming. Microsoft employs legions of hackers. People who know what developing OS is all about. Some ideas are common knowledge. Others will be similar, because AmigaOS is not only OS on the surface of the planet.

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@opi

I never said that AmigaOS IS a server-OS, but if you have paid attention
to the official OS4 site, then you will learn that is the direction
AmigaOS 4 will take. It's already into the Embedded thing and will most
likely develop itself into that market even further...

We don't know if Microsoft actually might have "stolen" some ideas from
AmigaOS. If that is the case, then Microsoft can be sued for that

Do never underestimate the true power of AmigaOS, whatever incarnation

 
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