How do I find out if images are stored in a PDF as vector format or not?

Some PDF software create PDFs embedding whole images in raster, not vector.

I was interested in embedding vector diagrams in a PDF.

Looking on the internet in hard to find the DOT linux program that converts text language to image/ common vector format.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_language

Graphvis uses DOT
http://graphviz.org/

and so does ImageMagic version 6.4.8-3
http://imagemagick.org/script/formats.php
http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/

and also Doxygen Source code documentation generator
http://www.stack.nl/~dimitri/doxygen/

How did I arrive at this stage ?

I wanted to learn the AWK scripting language which showed that XML / document parsing was easy to do.

A document (xml processing with gawk) commented that the diagrams for the XML structure was created using DOT and xgawk handled XML parsing from day one.

Aminet has ImagMagic version 5.5.5 and the supported formats does not list DOT format.

Rather than update ImageMagic to the latest version I want to know which other format is similar in syntax that is supported with this version, to create vector graphics that embeds into a PDF.

ImageMagic is a very powerful tool, lots of file support, conversions, vector processing, effects.

What impact would this software have on other Amiga apps, if it was converted to an Amiga DATATYPE format ?

A universal Image/vector processing datatype.

We can create diagrams, images via a language, automate documentation diagrams, flowcharts, drawing tools, anything !

Automate diagrams of source code, API, XML,CAD !

The questions is which format do you like ?

Just some thoughts....for the New Year !

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MindSpace can output its drawings as .svg or pdf format (using the svgtools package).

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@yoodoo2

I was disappointed in the current Amiga datatype for svg. It seems to be just the absolute minimum of support. It would not properly handle any interesting example svg files that I found.

I will say that my short investigation due to a genuine need came many months after I gave MindSpace a try. I could not see then that I had a use for it. My old Pagestream program seemed to cover about the same material.

However, having been through the svg dustup, I can appreciate your efforts a lot more.

So, from your post here, I take it that I can create with MindSpace and take away a finished project in a pdf using svg?

ggw

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@yoodoo2

MindSpace is PPC OS4 only. I have to wait a few months to get a SAM to try it.

I was also looking for a TXT/parser to create diagrams too. Looks interesting though.

Is it in active development ?

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@asymetrix

Yes. but slowly.

I'm currently rewriting the whole thing to be more of an Inkscape like thingy. (If I knew what I was doing, I'd be porting Inkscape properly...)

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@ggw

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I take it that I can create with MindSpace and take away a finished project in a pdf using svg?

Yes, with the caveat that text is borked and can cause severe crashes - this is a problem with the current svg datatype.

However, I'll be the first to admit that what you can actually create in MindSpace 1 is rather limited - it was never really intended as a "proper" vector app, but more for knocking up simple diagrams (see my avatar). So no complex fills and gradients, limited support for rotate etc and no support at all for transparencies.

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@yoodoo2

So for now you are depending on the svg datatype?

I guess we need to go cajole that datatype's most recent author, eh?

I'd certainly like to promote svg over flash... its nearest competitor if I understand correctly.

ggw

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@ggw

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So for now you are depending on the svg datatype?

Only for going from svg->pdf or svg->png type operations

you could always use online converters eg here . Don't think zamzar does svg?

Or, away from Amiga, use Inkscape, Scribus or OO.org

TBH I can't imagine there would be that many problems creating a straight forward svg->pdf converter, except for time, as always... Of course, legacy wise, eps might be more useful (and would allow import into FW, Pagestream etc).

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