@mbrantley

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512 MEGABYTES and NO HARD DRIVE

You surely mean 512 kilobytes.

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@amigasociety

Correct me if I'm wrong but my recollection of programming on Amiga and reading about coding on Windows (can't remember which version) was:

Amiga Intuition handles all window movement and resizing whereas Windows tells the application to move and resize its own window. So Amiga apps only had to worry about the post redrawing for simple and smart refresh windows or if they were reorganising their window layout inside the border.

Amiga Intuition has user data as part of its Intution messages which allows a pointer to a handler to be returned or whatever you wished. I always used this feature to retrieve and automatically call the handler function. Windows window messages don't have user data and so relied upon programmed switch cases to decide what to do. Not a lot of extra processing but I preferred to use the direct approach available on the Amiga.

I think Windows apps used to tie up Windows while they were handling a Windows message. I'm not sure if that is still the case. Amiga apps handle Intuition messages under their own process. Is the opposite or was it ever the case for Windows?

Also, as mentioned by others, there are still non-sharing operations under Windows that deny the user input any processing cycles at times. The Amiga is written towards always having time for passing through input.

It is possible on the Amiga to write commodities that cause the input to stutter. I know; I've done it. It is also possible to write BOOPSI gadgets (which can act in the Intuition context) to also cause the input to stutter. Again I know; I've done it. The Amiga is a very clever design.

aros on my laptop with wifi+sound+browser is perfect for me....















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I'd have to say that single tasking, command-line based operating systems such as MS-DOS are the most responsive that I have tried. Write your command and press enter, and things start happening in an instant.

@amigasociety
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Have you found other OS that is equally or even better than Amiga OS?

Not really, but Windows7 is quite close To sum it up:

Ultra responsive: C64
Super responsive: Amiga OS
Pretty responsive: Windows 7
Not (or awkward) responsive: OSX Lion (what a crap, that so called "most advanced OS")

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@KimmoK

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Does MOS or AROS have executive kind of scheduler options yet?

MorphOS has pluggable schedulers. I use one written by Bigfoot since years. :)

@Fab

/me feeling complete idiot in not finding time enough to dive deeper in MOS...

So it seems MOS is ahead also in this scheduler aspect. :-/

(and yet they do not plan to go SMP on PPC ... aargh... crime against humanity, perhaps, because SMP AmigalikeOS on PPC would be the next best thing since the fall of Hitler... IMO, that is)

+ NOW I understand why itix says that efika is fully usable with MOS while I often loose hair on SAM&AOS4....

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@KimmoK

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+ NOW I understand why itix says that efika is fully usable with MOS while I often loose hair on SAM&AOS4....

itix probably never opens many tabs in OWB.

OS may be the most responsive in the world, but that will not speed up applications.

MAME, UAE, modern webbrowsing etc. that all need fast CPUs with decent ammount of memory. Here shows SAM (or even slower Efika) its weak points.

@Dirk-B

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You surely mean 512 kilobytes.

Yes! Will correct that...

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@Fairdinkem

I'm currently in the proccess of migrating towards MacOS,so I'm quite happy to hear that.

AmigaOS is by far the most responsive I've ever used.
Windows is by far the worst. ;)

The most responsive OS I've ever used was Windows 2000 Datacenter Server, on modern hardware.

Let's have a look at this OS:
- HDD footprint: 1gb
- Ram occupation with no programs runing: 48mb
- Ram support: 32gb
- Processors support: up to 32 logical processors
- Capable of running Opera 12, thus capable of running HTML5 websites and apps with hardware acceleration etc.

Basically it's a OS from the 11 years ago that can do everything a modern computer should do, except fancy desktop effects and Directx10-11 games.
Supports modern stuff like a machine with more than 4gb ram and a quad or hexacore processor (excellent SMP)
Plus: it runs DOS games, programs etc. without any need for emulation, DosBox or whatever.
All of this with an average Ram occupation of 64mb and 1 to 1.5 gb on the hdd.

Just for comparison, what's the memory and hdd footprint of AmigaOs 4.1?

@resle

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Plus: it runs DOS games, programs etc.

How?

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Just for comparison, what's the memory and hdd footprint of AmigaOs 4.1?

Considering OS4 is distributed on 1 CD, it certainly doesn´t need more than 700 MB. I heard 250 MB boot partition is fine. Minimum RAM requirements are 128 MB, but that is not enough for real work.

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amigasociety wrote: Have you found other OS that is equally or even better than Amiga OS?

Windows

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Also, for those that know the whys, why is it that OS like Amiga and Haiku seem more responsive that other mainstream OS?

Because AmigaOS NG has lost legendary lightly of AmgiaOS 3..

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What tech or special coding is being used that makes these OS faster or more responsive?

progress creates better operating systems, and AmigaOS 4 is the recourse

AmigaOS 4 has noting of news, all its features are only a copy & paste from other OS.
his misfortune is that it comes after Windows and Linux.
perhaps haiku's team are better ..

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@Seiya

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Because AmigaOS NG has lost legendary lightly of AmgiaOS 3..

So you don´t use OS4 anymore?

@amigasociety

The most responsive OS I've used was Mac OS X - anything from Tiger to Snow Leopard - unfortunately Lion is a pile of dog-crap and is anything-but responsive- besides that it just loves to get in your way i.e. no 'Save as' function anymore.

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Commodore basic

Press Play On Tape.

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@pavlor

A pure dos layer still existed in Windows 2000, while it was removed and replaced with some sort of flaky emulation from XP on. Except for exotic stuff and programs that used particular memory managers, most of the dos programs still worked (some windowed, some full-screen) under Windows 2000 just by double clicking them.

@resle

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most of the dos programs still worked (some windowed, some full-screen) under Windows 2000 just by double clicking them.

I never managed to run most of my old DOS games.

However, you are right that Windows 2000 was nice OS - clean design and rich features.