@Morphix

MK802 IIIs looks good on paper:
"The stick has a 1.6 GHz RK3066 ARM Cortex-A9 processor, quad-core graphics, 1GB of RAM, and 4GB to 8GB of storage and a microSD card slot. It supports 802.11b/g/n WiFi and runs Google Android 4.1 Jelly Bean."

That should run light weight OS ok.

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Well got a fresh one for you: Kalamatee been able to boot AROS native on Raspberry PI right now, so porting going on!!!




A better view as link:

Wanderer screen on Native Raspberry Pi

Now to continue the port Kalamatee said is still missing USB....

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@Morphix

I am almost certain that RiscOS does not support WiFi yet, so you won't be able to stream movies through it (providing that it has a suitable video player to begin with).
Aros, has a really long distance to cover before being 100% compatible on the hardware. IMO, stick with RikoMagick and give it another shot (and do not forget writing a review about it).

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Aros, has a really long distance to cover before being 100% compatible on the hardware.

I wouldn't say really long distance personally. But yes the native version is not complete yet. It does however boot now.

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@Cool_amigaN

AROS was support for on USB WiFi chipset and I have it working with my netbook and one of the older AROS distro builds as I have not had a chance to update my install of late.

I think I have read some reports of people having trouble with USB wifi adapters and the more recent AROS builds but that may already have been fixed as I have not been following resent progress very closely.

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@Cool_amigaN

it has certainly not a "long distance" to go and when it is ready it will offer new opportunities for developers and first time a realistic chance to win new users outside our (small) community.

@OlafS25

One thing I am curious about, as I haven't tried AROS in a long time ... how is the kickstart replacement + UAE working?

Has the kickstart been finished?
As for UAE, how integrated is it with AROS? Or is it integrated at all?

For AROS to catch on, or at least catch on a bit more, I think seamless UAE integration would really help -- sort of how Rosetta worked with OSX. Old software would simply then 'just work', so it'd appear as if AROS was fully (or close to it) compatible with old 68K software.

On the Pi, this will be tricky, as it's not exactly a CPU powerhouse. But it should be able to manage full A500 speeds, I'd think, with a bit of work. I also wonder how difficult (or easy) it will be to port AROS to other ARM chipsets/devices after the Pi version is finished ... that is way down the road, but there are so many ARM devices out there, it'd open up the potential userbase even more.

@Nameless

Kickstart replacement + UAE is good working (I use it with WinUAE every day). If you mean the integration in the distributions then it depends.

The most extensive integration right now is in Icaros. Description here:
http://www.natami-news.de/html/icaros.html

AspireOS has no integration, Aeros uses my distribution but just starts it inside (not so sophisticated as the integration in Icaros).

I think Icaros comes nearest to what you imagine. You can f.e. start Ignition in its own screen next to other (X86) applications.

I will look this weekend if I can offer a manual on my page how to integrate Aros Vision in Icaros.

68k and X86 are most supported right now, for ARM there is still not much software (because there was no need) but that will certainly change.

Kickstart finished in sense 100% compatible to all amiga-kickstarts (it replaces all with one ROM) no. Many applications work and a large number of games run too.

List with working games:
http://www.natami-news.de/html/compatibility.html

Screenshots of many applications on my manual page:
http://www.natami-news.de/html/user_manual.html

WHDLoad works nearly perfectly so when you add original Roms f.e. from Amigaforever almost all games work

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id say there is tsill a number of issues, none wants to take care about, when it comes to the kickstart replacement, especially in native amiga gfx area, but under uae its actually usable, less so on real hardware.

@wawa

he asked about "emulation"

@utri007

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utri007 wrote: Having 25€ motherboard hasn't have big influence to RiscOS userbase. MorphOS hasn't sell huge amounts with cheap Macs.

Wrong, number of registrations went up dramatically since MorphOS support Macs.



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@saimon69

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saimon69 wrote: Well got a fresh one for you: Kalamatee been able to boot AROS native on Raspberry PI right now, so porting going on!!! ... Now to continue the port Kalamatee said is still missing USB....

USB is important especially on a Raspberry PI

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@Nameless

Janus-UAE comes with a host of intergration type features. From simple "click a 68k application/game on Wanderer to launch it as native" to the ability to use AROS menus for 68k software, to having 68k apps use aros windows/scrollers/etc.

It's pretty easy to use, but I think icaros is the only distro thus far to have it installed/setup by default.

Unfortunately however its currently for x86 only. Porting it to other architectures is probably a bit pointless anyway as it requires a reasonable amount of grunt.

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@Cool_amigaN

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Cool_amigaN wrote: I, as well, have never understood Hyperion's "dual boot fear syndrome". A decade ago there was another saying: Once OS4.x goes to x86 it will get swallowed by XP on a dual boot system (from a user perspective). ...

I still think this was not wrong during the time when the AOS4 development started. Remember: CPUs where available, Macs still had a PPC and the byte ordering perfectly fit to the 68k AOS.

But it did not work; none of the Amiga successors got a significant number of users on to his platform. Some realised the remaining market is too small for own hardware others still continue in the way they always did.

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Now, the same syndrome still exists on some vocal Os4 supporters when the migration to another hardware architecture is mentioned. Luckily Aeon and Acube do not share the same vision, trying to support as many operating systems as possible on their machines.

Hardware is not made by the OS vendor, no wonder they have different intentions. Usually they are acting as partners but sometimes they might be opponents.

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@OlafS25

Thanks for the info. Kickstart is in better shape than I expected.

One thing that in theory sounds good, but in actuality may work against AROS, is the fact there are so many distributions for it ... it may just confuse people. It's always easiest to simply go to one single webpage, with one distribution, ideally with an app store or something similar on one 'official' site.

For AROS on Pi, I do hope the native version gets listed on Pi's webpage for downloads -- that's where it'd get eyeballs.

And Icaros does look similar to what I meant. One major benefit of integrating UAE is the fact it could be bundled with 68K games, or at least, make them easily available to users. And if part of the OS it may be more attractive than simply loading up an emulator, which anyone can do with any other operating system already.

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@Arko

Although I disagree with the suggestions by the OP, I do agree with him that MorphOS hasn't sold huge numbers, even with cheap Macs. They have helped, and I think lower price systems are needed to increase numbers, but in my opinion used Macs are just a dead end, and didn't really make a difference in the overall Amiga market.

MorphOS (and AOS 4 too) numbers are absolutely tiny for an OS. I'd probably say AROS numbers are tiny too, but I simply have no idea what they are.

@Nameless

I do not expect all distributions be ported to ARM, I assume one distribution for Raspberry (and hopefully similar to Icaros). Perhaps Icaros. I do not know because it is too early.

Icaros is very good now, you can start 68k in background and then start 68k applications and games by doubleclick.

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@Nameless

the last number was somewhere near 7000 (quiet good for a platform with propably not more than 10.000 user for all platforms including 68k). But it is impossible to say exactly.

@saimon69

ordered my raspi friday for aros. :)

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