From the very first beginning Amiga people have had the chance to emulate mac hardware. Now it seems like MorphOS will come for macmini G4 and that there are AmigaOS 4 hacks out there.

First it was Emplant, then Shapeshifter and iFusion. They all made Amiga people closer to Mac. Now it seems as the next target is not to emulate, but to be on Mac hardware itself.

I just hope to see MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 for more than just MacMini. Think of ibooks and powerbooks? They all have PPC hardware. There are thousands of PPC models out there which just waits for Amiga support. I am sure that even those bubble imac G3 macs would be a nice target or imac lamp or mac cube? PowerMac etc?

The fact is that there are more Mac PPC machines out there today than Amiga computers. And I am certain that there are people not so rich which have bought their imac G3 and kept it. Macs are expensive, so only the most hardcore users with money that can upgrade when Apple tell them to do so. I think that Mac PPC hardware should be supported and those coders for AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS should get all the support from the users.

I am not one of them which will get an MacMini G4 so I can run MorphOS on it. I do it if my PegasosII dies. I really wait for PowerBook G4 support as I would like to take MorphOS everywhere. But thats a dream, but I hope :)

What sort of Mac PPC hardware do you have? Which you would like to see AmigaOS support for?

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What sort of Mac PPC hardware do you have?

Bad quality mac-hardware.
Dunno what else to call a machine that completely dies after 2.5 years, used in the same way as the older pc and amigaone next to it.

So no to bad quality, no longer manufactured Apple ppc-hardware.

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@tomazkid

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What sort of Mac PPC hardware do you have? Which you would like to see AmigaOS support for?

I got a Mini and wait for either one. I mean I really wish that would be AmigaOS but I'm too horny to wait. I can always make my Mini triple boot eventually - OSX / AOS / MOS

Knowing Moana AOS4 I think Mini release is just a few steps away. Also I suppose those PPC Minis are pretty popular machine, among all G3, G4 or G5 Apple models. That's another argument.

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@tomazkid

I am sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with Macintosh hardware, I have had quite the opposite. I have 2 Digital Audio Powermacs, both made in 2001, and running as good as they did from day 1. It will be another 10 years before I see an Amiga OS4 compatible computer with the specs of my 8 year old Macs albeit they are upgraded. I wish the situation was different with an Amiga compatible computer with the power of my Macs but I must stay in perspective. So of course I would want to run OS4 on them.

I have an iBook G4 which I'd love to run AmigaOS on I've heard a couple of people complain about Mac hardware recently, but I've had no such bad experience, and the "niceness" of the hardware (better thought out cooling vents, better battery life, nicer layout of connectors etc.) sets them apart from generic PC hardware IMHO. I've seen plenty of PC hardware die - my flatmate's had her Acer laptop back for 3 repairs under warranty, but it doesn't mean you can't get good, reliable PC hardware either.

Incidentally, my old Power Mac (with a 601 CPU IIRC) running OS8.1 is still working perfectly today :) Whenever I can be bothered to turn it on anyway...

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I have an iBook G4 14inch 1.4GHz that I'd love to see OS4 on.

http://amigamac.wikispaces.com/ No one else was ever interested. I did almost everything there myself, with only a very few contributions from others. Lots of people SAY we should have OS4 on Mac-PPC, but no one seems willing to actually DO anything about it. Other than Moana failing and Hyperion declining my proposal, who has actually tried to make this happen?

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@AmiDelf2

I have a Mac Mini G4 and will love to run MorphOS on it.

If OS4 guys don't want to release OS4 for Mac Mini its their problem, they'll have less sales and an user base with outdated cache-L2-less embedded computers with no cpu muscle.

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Having laptop running os4 would be just so fine :D

@Crumb

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I have a Mac Mini G4 and will love to run MorphOS on it.

If MOS comes out for this I will likely buy one used and run MOS on that and use my Peg2 for AOS.

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I have MacMini G4 1.42 Ghz.

I'm iterested in trying Amiga-like OS on it.

(The HW is poor guality after all, or atleast HW is driven badly, for example HW cooling does not always work if OSX locks up and that is just DANGEROUS!!!! (CD writing caused a deadlock and the cooler sped up only after Power off-on & the air that came out was extremely hot for a long time) And the HW cooling is very very noisy.
(initially I thought it is silent, but only when it is idle, web surfing is easily enough to cause 100% CPU load))

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256mb ram ?

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Mac Mini is not a platform that is considererd viable for OS4, from my understanding of various posts around the place.

Anyone holdimg out for it, looks to be sorely disappointed.

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256mb ram ?

Ram has nothing to do with it.

My Mac was a G4 Mini too, it just died one day, no life signs whatsoever.
Compare the 2.5 years with my soon 6 year old A1, and 5 years old pc, those are still working, the only thing replaced due to breakdown has been the PSU's, and with my Mac, it is not the PSU.

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I have an IBook PPC g3 600 and i really like to have MorphOS on it , OS4 too would be amazing but i can satisfy of MOS

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1024mb

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I have Pegasos and Efika for MorphOS
And soon Mac Mini for it :)
It will be nice to see other mac hardware supported by MorphOS :)

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@Drako

That's nice. I hope so to and ATI Radeon 9700 support. That will do it.

Here is some nice PPC G4 machines from Apple!

1.
Power Mac G4 Cube
CPU PowerPC G4, 450–500 MHz
Produced between 2000 and 2001


2.
iMac G4
CPU 700 MHz - 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4
Produced between 2002 and 2004


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iBook G4
CPU PowerPC G4, 800 MHz–1.42 GHz
Produced between 2003 and 2006


4.
PowerBook G4
CPU PowerPC G4, 400 MHz - 1.67 GHz
Produced between 2001 and 2006


I don't know how many is produced, but its been seen everywhere. You go to library, you see
people still sitting with their PowerBooks or even iBooks today. This target machines would be a hit as macs isn't that often upgraded. Most of Mac users tend to hold onto their macs as Amigans tends to hold onto to their Amigas.

Why is this platform to dumb for AmigaOS4? I don't understand that statement? Is Acube Amiga motherboards any better? Well, their boards are expensive for sure! Mac PPC hardware would make lots of external people come back, especially all of those x-Amigans which had to leave Amiga because of jobs or wifes. To be able to have AmigaOS on a Mac would give AmigaOS more respect. So, get MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 out for these and you have hundreds of new users in no time. These G4 machines have been produced between 2001 and 2006. That's 5 years and with the speed and comfort that AmigaOS gives, I am certain that this platform would be a healthy way to go for both Hyperion and MorphOS Team.

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@AmiDelf2

Hyperion is not interested in porting OS4.1 into commoditized hardware because it would create greater support costs then what they probably would like or let alone can handle without problems. Also cheaper hardware would surely raise the issue amongst many of their policy to pay in full per a CD Key.

Hyperion and ACube, like Amiga.inc before or even still, want to create a microcosm akin to Apple and Intel in which they can profit the most they can at your expense, a very un-Commodore like philosophy. And if a wide range of the community objects or stops buying OS4.1 on ACube hardware in sufficient numbers they will probably quit, fold Hyperion and focus on getting contracted at other firms.

If this is what you want ok, because its done.

@ReverseGTR

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which they can profit the most they can at your expense

Is capitalism a new concept to you?

Commodore was a publically traded company. That means the board of directors was responsible first and foremost to the shareholders an maximizing stock share price. Nothing else has priority over that in a public company. I really do not understand your comment that profit was "very un-Commodore like".

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Is capitalism a new concept to you?

What I am trying to state is that Hyperion is not interested in growing the OS4.1 userbase as much as pocketing as much as they can from the current. At least Commodore attempted pursue the afformentioned goal until it declared bankruptcy and I was alluding that Hyperion doesn't seem to intend OS4x to ever be one for the masses.

And if you bring up Peg I/II systems as an exception from the norm I am listing above, remember Peg I/II is a small volume manufactured and now discontinued system. It was probably done to stimulate developers on MOS to start cross platforming.

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