hi all
i saw this guy running windows 7 on his amiga 2000 computer on you tube here this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4UyA8qq4E0
this got me think is it postable to run windows on my amiga 4000? so i did some searching and found this
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/full-size-CPU-card-with-Socket478-Northwood-or-Prescott-Pentium-4-CPU/582311909.html
now i asked the seller if the card need to be connect to both isa and pci slots and he yes now i did remeber seeing a amiga 2000 on ebay a while back with one of this cards install and running windows but he only had isa slot connected the pci side of the board was not connected which the ebay seller said that you can only install the pc card on amiga 2000 4000t as there are isa slot with nothink in front or back of the slot so the pci side of the pc card is not connected. this got me thinking isa slot is no way connected to the amiga apart from power so my quesion is if this ture that isa slot are not connected to the amiga unless you have a bridgeboard card, can i install one of these on my amiga 4000D inside a big tower case with mediator busboard with PCI Male To Female Riser Card Extender Flexible Flex Extension this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130679685569?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
will it just work on pci power or is there a way to conver a zorro slot into a isa or a pci slot into isa?

Last edited by amigat on 26-Feb-2013 at 10:52 PM.

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Putting that card in an A4000D (or 3000D) would have the PCI-part stuck in a Zorro-slot (bad idea), but you might get away with putting some electrical tape over it.

Don't forget that this 2nd puter will suck lots of power from the A4000-PSU and that the A4000 isn't exactly known for good airflow.

As to why anybody would run a complete PC inside an Amiga is still beyond me .... I can somewaht understand bridgeboard, but these ?? Just hotglue some Nettop/MiniITX PC under your table and you have the same result.....

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it will be in a eagle tower case with 600w atx psu to supply power to amiga 4000 and pc board, it will be easy to have to computers in one case as it saves on space and cables and i am planing to buy this busboard


http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/pcishuttle

Last edited by amigat on 03-Mar-2013 at 09:05 PM.
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Hmmm....

That looks like ISA VESA card. I would be curious as to how the hell one would power such as the last boards I saw with such a slot were my dual 486 board from an old AT File Server. That wouldn't be a PCI and I believe that card would absolutely need a VESA slot slot support because the purpose of the VESA slot is that is provides bus mastering which the CPU would logically need but the effect is that the 486 PC would largely just be used to interface with some old devices like old AT keyboards and other stuff.

My suspicion is the motherboard in the the Amiga 2000 can in the youtube video is NOT the actual Amiga 2000 motherboard but a 486 motherboard - considering the Amiga 2000 can is largely AT form factor as it was basically the same case with slightly different front face panels as used in Commodore PC line in the 80s. The keyboard connector would be the same 5 pin DIN type connector possibly. So, they just transplanted a 486 motherboard. I could do that same trick with my Commodore PC-10 can by using a 486 motherboard I have and put that card. I might need to up the PSU to something capable of handling the power of a Pentium 4 to not tax the poor power supply to all hell.

It would be interesting as to the big question - WHY?

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IGNORE THE ABOVE. Refer to the LAST part of following post of mine about PICMG 1.0 spec. It would only then make some technical electronics sense but something new to me. Weird stuff.

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@Kronos

NOT PCI

ISA VESA.

PCI was NEVER in-line with the ISA. That would be ISA VESA. The VESA connector looks a lot like PCI but is not. VESA is known as VESA Local Bus Connector which provided a sort of 32-bit extention to EISA (long ISA) and there was the bus mastering feature.

Every board that I seen and I seen too many of these things, were on a seperate slot and NOT in-line with ISA connectors.

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IGNORE THE ABOVE:

I think I figured this out. It is something new and VERY wierd. It is a PICMG board needing a special type of PICMG with full ISA-PCI bridge backplane. This is probably what was done.

Look at Advantech website for some examples. It looks literally identical to ISA/VESA Local Bus unless one can perfectly count the pins but sh*t this is probably what was done.

Last edited by Wildstar128 on 11-Mar-2013 at 08:34 AM.

http://www.l-trondirect.com/PCI-ISA-PICMG-1-0-Passive-Backplane-14-15-Slot-p/pca-6114p7-0d3e.htm?gclid=CLyly9Sh9LUCFexaMgodc1QAmQ&gdftrk=gdfV25850_a_7c2310_a_7c8509_a_7cPCA_d_6114P7_d_0D3E

This would be used to replace the on-board motherboard in the Amiga 2000 can then these cards would be installed.

@amigat

I um cant remember, it was a few weeks ago, but there WAS a point to my question, just cant remember anymore, sorry.

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