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Dogenigt 
IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
Posted on 22-Mar-2013 1:35:15
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Hi guys, nice to meet you - I've just joined the board after (re)buying a amiga - this time an Amiga 600 which I've been wanting for a long time now. Fits perfectly on my office table. (Got it real cheap of some guy here in Denmark, the FDD is kinda malfunctioned so the price was ~$60 / £40)

Anyways, the composite output is putting out a really weird picture on my TV and I actually want to get the optimal from the great graphics processor in this thing so I've been looking at this RGB-to-VGA adapter from amigakit.
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=183

The question here is:
Do you think this could go well along with this old IBM monitor? Anybody know this type of monitor? It's "missing" some pins on the VGA connector.


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olegil 
Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
Posted on 22-Mar-2013 7:18:01
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@Dogenigt

Sorry, the A600 isn't able to drive VGA video modes, and that's a passive adapter, simply converting from one connector to the other. You'll need a SCART or CVBS or RF input on a TV for the A600, or an active adapter like a scandoubler.

What's funky about the CVBS output?


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Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
Posted on 22-Mar-2013 8:06:03
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@olegil

Actually it is capable of driving VGA video modes, those modes just aren't that useful (4 colors, slow, not used by any game).

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Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
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@Kronos

Ok, not capable of doing anything useful on VGA video modes, then?

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Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
Posted on 24-Mar-2013 14:34:24
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You buy a1200 very good, i have this machine and use vga adaptor on lcd monitor from multiscan resolution very nice.

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Posted on 24-Mar-2013 14:36:53
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@Dogenigt

Welcome!

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Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
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I somehow missed the reply notice for this thread so a little late reply here.
but I went off and bought the passive adapter and I can get some image
out of it but it's skewed as you would expect.





But I don't feel compelled to buy a scandoubler for twice the value of my A600 and going out and buying a A1200 is a silly solution.

The adapter came with this guide sheet and it says that workbench is cabable of entering some modes:

DBLPal (29.45 Khz)
DBLNTSX (29.02 Khz)
Euro72 (31.43 Khz)
Super72 (24.62 Khz)
Multiscan (31.44 Khz)
and VGAOnly

are these modes really that compromising? some say they are slow, some say they only show a limited amount of colours, some say they work fine just for gaming and others say that very few games will be playable with them...

It's very confusing tbh....

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Posted on 17-Apr-2013 18:35:25
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@Dogenigt

Right, the kind of games you'll be able to play are the Workbench-type games which don't hit the graphics hardware directly, and either use the Workbench screen or allow you to choose a screenmode for them. Most games, especially older ones of the A600 era, access the graphics hardware directly and so don't use Workbench for the screenmode at all. These games will not work on that monitor without a scandoubler, and there's no way around that.

Seeing as you already have the monitor, it'll do you no ham to try it, but I suspect you'll be disappointed. To use the screenmodes listed in your guide you'll need to use the proper Workbench disk for the A600 - the one you have there is much too old and doesn't support the VGA modes.

As was already suggested, a SCART adaptor into a TV will give much better results than trying to use that monitor without a scandoubler. It will support all the colours your A600 can do, won't slow it down, and will work with any game the A600 can run.

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utri007 
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Posted on 17-Apr-2013 19:02:12
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@Dogenigt

As you ar from Denmark, easist way to get picture is connect it to LCD-TV with RGB to SCART cable.



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Dogenigt 
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Oh yeah, I might go for the RGB -> Scart into some small TV. Oddly, the composite output on my A600 doesn't work properly on my TV. Colours and dimensions are all FUBAR'd...

If I only want gaming on my A600, is the scart cable to TV an okay solution?

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Re: IBM VGA Monitor to A600 via RGB-to-VGA-adapter
Posted on 20-Mar-2025 2:33:27
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Quote:
by Dogenigt on 22-Mar-2013 1:35:15

Hi guys, nice to meet you - I've just joined the board after (re)buying a amiga - this time an Amiga 600 which I've been wanting for a long time now. Fits perfectly on my office table. (Got it real cheap of some guy here in Denmark, the FDD is kinda malfunctioned so the price was ~$60 / �40)

Anyways, the composite output is putting out a really weird picture on my TV and I actually want to get the optimal from the great graphics processor in this thing so I've been looking at this RGB-to-VGA adapter from amigakit.
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=183

The…


Hi! The RGB-to-VGA adapter by Amigakit should work, but you might face compatibility issues with your old IBM monitor due to missing VGA connectors. You may need an additional cable or a converter for that specific issue. Always ensure the output resolution matches what's supported on your monitor too!

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