@Trixie

I paid for it ages ago too. Maybe I suffer the most from the current situation because I work with it, and don't want to replace PageStream. Replacing it I have to change platform which is the worst case. :)

Unfortunately I have no influence on the development, so I decided to make some interest from the community, and hope for the best. :)

@Trixie
So, there are people who paid for the OS4 version 10 years ago, and they are still waiting for it?!?

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@Everblue

Not exactly 10 years ago, but yes :)

@Lazi

I think I paid for it too, but so many years have passed that I've actually forgotten. No doubt I've probably tossed out my records also.

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@Moxee

I paid for it too, and the MorphOS version too.

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@DiscreetFX

Maybe this is the reason why no updates... :)

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@cha05e90
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There *is* an OS4.x version of Pagestream (v5.x). But it's still...hmmm...somewhere between alpha and beta, depending which 5.x-build you may try

I have a 5.0.3.3 Pro with code beginning "7F454C46 01020100 00000000 00000000." It's my understanding that the "ELF" (454C46) marks it as 68K, so at least one v5.x is not "OS4."

My 5.0.5.8 Pro's code begins "000003F3 00000000 00000003 00000000," marking it as an AOS4 version. I use it regularly. It has quirks, and doesn't do everything it should (e.g. the Python scripts don't work) but I've been quite happy with it on my SAM460. I should mention that on my AmigaOne it wouldn't start from the icon (had to use the shell) and was likely to have DSI errors along the way; I'm not sure why switching to SAM made such a difference.

@kilaueabart

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the "ELF" (454C46) marks it as 68K

Wrong. This ELF marks it as PPC native AmigaOS 4.x version. And, yes, at least for me the 5.0.3.3 is the most stable and really usable version that where build natively for OS4.x, I use it most of the time. Only every now and then I switch "back" to the 4.1.5.6 68k version.

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@kilaueabart

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My 5.0.5.8 Pro's code begins "000003F3 00000000 00000003 00000000," marking it as an AOS4 version.

No, version 5.0.5.8 hasn't been released for AmigaOS 4 yet. What you're referring to is a 68K version. An alpha/early beta release, now about two years old.

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from the site, they support only Linyux, OSX and Windows..

however, it's normal for they support the best OS in the market with thousand of potential customers..

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Hi Lazi,
I use PageStream 4 pro (68k under AROS Janus) pretty much every day both for work (teaching advanced level Physics) and for home use (letters, posters, anthing printed really). To address another post here (DTP vs workdprocessor), when I started teacing I quickly found the demands of the documents I was producing, which requied a flexible mixture of text, equations and graphics (in particular structured graphics) was just way beyond wordprocessor capabilites, so quickly switched to DTP and have been using PageStream from version 2.2 since the start of the 90s. Even today, yes, MS Word has improved dramatically over the years but still can be intensely frustrating when trying to ahcieve moderately complex page layouts. As our college standardises on Word, and I need to share documents with my colleages, I have even purchased PageStream 5 for Windows and given it to my department so I can continue to use it.

But here's the rub - how much longer will this be, at least on an Amiga-like system, given that our last stable version is around ten years old? There was some interest around two years ago Deron requesting help with the MUI side of things, and even talk of a native AROS verion, but since then nothing, even the mailing list for Amiga systems is very quiet. I have to say I am getting more despondent over ever seing new Amiga versions, so...

Let me float this idea. Following the success of getting the Magellan source code released, what about investigating the chances/cost of getting the PageStream 2.2 code open sourced? Notice I say 2.2 - as I understand since version 3.0 all platforms share the same core code, so there would be no chance of getting a later verison as I suppose Deron is still making an income on the Windows, Linux and Mac versions. 2.2 was Amiga only, and I think a lot of code was reworked in moving to 3.0, so maybe it would be considered OK to release. Yes, it is something like 20 years old, and far less capable than the more recent versions, but it would be much more advanced than anything we currently have open-sourced for Amiga systems (and even closed-source if you discount PageStram 4/5 itself) and could then be developed and enhanced by the community with ports to AROS, OS4 and MorphOS.

Those who have said here about having paid years ago but are atill waiting for a stable version might not be too keen on the thought of paying again to a source-code bounty, and I can empathise - I paid for the OS4 version (useless to me now as I no longer have an OS4 machine) and version 5 pro for 68k, but I do despair of ever seing those and would rather have something, even if it means paying again and having to (maybe temporarily) move backwards in features than have nothing and eventually have to abandon Amiga-heritage systems for my DTP week.

Anyway, just something I've been mulling over since the Magellan news which I thought I'd share here,

Nigel.

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So far I've been using the 68K v4.1.5.6 version (almost ten years old) for most
everything. It mostly runs.

The OS4 version barely starts and hasn't been updated in years and years. The
Mac version is a basket case. No version built this millennium holds a candle
to the reliability of versions 2 and 3.

:/

So much for showing one's support Amiga developers with money...

It seems Deron cares more for his chicken tractors, rat hurdles, dog sleds and
snake breeding. I guess we see where Pagestream supporters fit in his pecking
order of priorities.

Disappointing.

PJS

@ntromans

Does Deron own Pagestream nowadays? Is Deron same as Soft-Logic?

For i was under impression that Deron had been hired to work on pagestream but have just failed to meet his contract so far.

You may call me crazy, but I am looking to buy a used copy of PageStream, which would work with my Sam460ex, running 0S4.1 update 6.

I'd rather don't buy directly from the PageStream website because I'm not sure what and when I'd get my order.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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@Seiya

you wrote:
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from the site, they support only Linyux, OSX and Windows..

from the Pagestream website today:
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PageStream is a creative and feature-rich desktop publishing/page layout program available for Windows, Macintosh OS X, Linux, and Amiga.

What site were you visiting when you came to your erroneous conclusion?

Paul

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Hi Bugala,
I got the feeling that Softlogic was a 'one man band' but I could be wrong. Either way it would be a case of identifying who owned the rights to the 2.2 code, seeing if they would consider relasing it, and if so for how much.

@ntromans

"Soft-Logik Publishing Corp. was founded in September 1985 by Deron Kazmaier and Shawn Fogle."

Is the same guy responsible for the failed aladdin4d app?.

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Is the same guy responsible for the failed aladdin4d app?.

according to @DiscreetFX, yes.

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