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jabeck 
Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 18-May-2012 21:54:55
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Hey guys - I'm fairly new around here, so forgive me if this has been answered somewhere else - I'm a programmer with a renewed interest in "retro" programming. Are there any good resources for assembly programming on the Amiga - i.e. assemblers, software, tutorials, etc...? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 18-May-2012 22:02:50
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@jabeck

In Denmark a company called Dataskolen sold a course in assembly programming on the Amiga. The author have later given permission to put it on-line for free and somebody already translated it into English.

You can find it here Amiga-Maskinkode brevkursus

Have fun

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Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 18-May-2012 23:16:10
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@jabeck

Go to eab.abime.net everything you need and more is there.
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Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
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@jabeck

Get yourself a copy of ReSource (I wouldn't be without it) and that way you can de-compile everything ever written for the Amiga and learn all the tricks and tips there is...

PS:DevPac to me is the best assembler for coding on the Amiga... just "google" for them and you'll find them...

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Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 19-May-2012 0:21:21
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@Thread,

I have an unopened copy of AssemPro for the Amiga distributed by Abacus as a Data Becker Product.

Is it any good, or should I try to find DevPac instead?

Edit: I also found that I do have a copy of ReSource by The Puzzle Factory and also Macro68 by DigiSoft for disassembly of 680x0 code.

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Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 19-May-2012 1:17:08
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If you have the Amiga Assember book by Data Becker as well, it might be handy to use that to learn with. That's what I did all those years ago and it really helped a beginner like me learn about the 68000, registers and all those other low level things. At least, practicing with AssemPro while going through the book helped me understand.

For anything real or if you generally know assembly languages but just want to try out some 68K stuff, you are best moving away from that and going with DevPac.

Enjoy!

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@amigadave

If you have the Amiga Assember book by Data Becker as well, it might be handy to use that to learn with. That's what I did all those years ago and it really helped a beginner like me learn about the 68000, registers and all those other low level things. At least, practicing with AssemPro while going through the book helped me understand.

For anything real or if you generally know assembly languages but just want to try out some 68K stuff, you are best moving away from that and going with DevPac.

Enjoy!


Nope! I don't find that book in my library of Amiga books and manuals. I do have a few others though, like the "Mastering Amiga Assembler" by Paul Overaa and "Amiga Assembly Language Programming" by Jake Commander, plus I also have several Motorola 68000 books, a few Machine language books and I think I own every edition of all the Commodore Amiga Kernel manuals. All told, I think I have about 60 Amiga programming books in my library and I am always on the look out for more that I don't have. I like having printed materials, like books and magazines to look through. They are much better than trying to read from an electronic file.

Thanks for the tips, I will look for that book you suggested.

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Franko 
Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 19-May-2012 2:17:43
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@amigadave

When it comes to the choice of Assembler package it's really just down to personal preference I reckon. Having tried over the years all the Amiga assembler packages I simply find DevPac to be the easiest and least cluttered to use and not like some others packed with "features" that you'd probably never use or find useful...

ReSource is a great tool for studying assembler code, not saying it's easy but it does make you study the code more carefully which in turn leads to a better understanding of how things work...

If you can find old copies of Amiga User International then they ran quite a number of very good and easy to understand assembler tutorials...

Probably one of the best and most important books though that anyone coding in assembler on the Amiga should have is the Amiga Hardware Reference Manual and to me the most important bit of that is the hardware registers section...

http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Hardware_Manual_guide/node0060.html

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A lot of guys I know used either phxass or AsmPro (both of which were on Aminet)

I had Devpac2 and 3, although I seem to remember DevPac2 being given away on one of the CUCDs, I don't remember if 3 ever was (I have asked HiSoft if the Amiga version of Devpac3 is available at all and will post the result of that enquiry).

There was another Disassembler on Aminet (IRA) but naturally was not as simple to use as ReSource.

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asymetrix 
Re: Classic Amiga Assembly programming
Posted on 19-May-2012 21:59:37
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@jabeck

try this link

ACC-PRESERVATION_Complete.zip


http://mir.cr/AHI194E5


everything on assembler for Amiga (disk mag set)

also can be found on

http://eab.abime.net


see pm

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@_Steve_

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A lot of guys I know used either phxass or AsmPro (both of which were on Aminet)

I had Devpac2 and 3, although I seem to remember DevPac2 being given away on one of the CUCDs, I don't remember if 3 ever was (I have asked HiSoft if the Amiga version of Devpac3 is available at all and will post the result of that enquiry).

There was another Disassembler on Aminet (IRA) but naturally was not as simple to use as ReSource.


DevPac2 was given away once but only a demo of DevPac3 was ever given away as far as I remember (need to check through my collection)...

There are quite a few other free or shareware assembler packages out there but like I said before it really comes down to personal choice as to which one you use...

Getting hold of the tools is simple enough, it's dedicating the time and finding the willpower to learn assembler that the hard part (but well worth if it if you persevere)...

Are HiSoft still in business !!!

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Posted on 20-May-2012 21:17:02
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@Franko

Yes HiSoft are, but they focus mostly of website delivery now based on what I could gather from their website.

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Yes HiSoft are, but they focus mostly of website delivery now based on what I could gather from their website.


Just looked up their website...

http://www.hisoft.co.uk/about/ref.html

Seems they've been into designing websites since 1999, pretty sure they were still selling Amiga products until around 2002/2003...

Oh well, even I can forgive them for that (gotta earn a crust I suppose) and they did bring us some of the best productive software ever available for the Amiga after all...

Seems David Link one of the original founders of HiSoft has move into the Leisure/ Tourist industry too (mustn't be enough money in website designing)...

http://emsworthcafe.co.uk/

http://www.waterfront-inn.co.uk/about/home

(Wonder if they do discounts at those places for Amiga conferences/ shows)...

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Belxjander 
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Posted on 20-May-2012 22:25:08
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@jabeck

There is the ASM-One package for the Amiga that is free online somewhere... I did have a link buried in a lot of bookmarks somewhere...

Anyway the name alone should at least help you find it using google or another search engine

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jabeck 
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Posted on 21-May-2012 18:25:13
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Thanks for all the great information - lots of reading and learning to do now. I'll post back when I've exhausted my brain from all this!

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_Steve_ 
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Posted on 21-May-2012 21:17:31
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Asm-One can be found on this mirror. I was fairly sure I had seen it (and played with it briefly back in late 90s), but when I searched for it a few days ago on the main aminet site, it only had a document review of it.

I seem to remember one of these (ASM-One/Asm-Pro) being based on the other (at least in look and feel).

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