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OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 16:47:14
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Instructions are made, XE is still broken.

Why is this not possible? Because it seems to be..

4.0 and 4.1 buyed. Then the machine is broken and no help.

Only way is get it for a few loose G4 macs. For free, not paying ridicolous sums again.

Lost my nerve...


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pavlor 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 17:23:38
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@PR

Why not try MorphOS?

Or used SAM?

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olegil 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 19:20:28
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@PR

So your machine is broken, out of warranty, and you want someone to help you out because you have paid for software? Right. Microsoft will probably give you and new PC if your old one breaks as well. And I probably have a bridge here you'll be interested in.

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PR 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 19:22:09
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Yes right on.

Good Night.



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PR 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 19:25:52
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From: Suomi-Finland

Joke is on me. Payed for a few years some repair money for the XE and still not seen any.

Not Fair?

Long live the OS4...



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Spirantho 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 19:38:47
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@PR

That's not the fault of OS4 though.

The XE is not far off a decade old now - I know there's plenty of 10 year old PCs that don't work any more either.

It's certainly not fair to blame the failing of an 8ish year old machine on AmigaOS, though.

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 19:53:05
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@PR

I don't understand what you're writing. Did someone take your A1 for repairs and not return it?

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 20:21:49
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Are you still in possession of the AmigaOne?

Since you don't have a lot of money to spend,
you would not be able to pay the money it would cost to port and maintain OS4 on a specific Macintosh model.

The solution to this problem is:
1) Finding some way to fix your AmigaOne.
(Is there a post here explaining what the problem is?)

Or

2) Save money to buy a new computer.

I expect you want performance similar to the AmigaOneXE.
When A-EON or ACube release a new hardware model,
it will be an opportunity for people to replace their AmigaOne XE or X1000,
and you could find a used one at a reduced price.

Sam460 is a good price right now, so maybe you can consider that even if it is not as fast or expandable as the AmigaOneXE. If you want to do that, I'm willing to contribute towards your purchase.



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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 21:30:43
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@PR

Quote:
Long live the OS4...

I feel sorry you couldn't get your board repaired but what has OS4 to do with broken hardware? If your PC bites the dust, will you say "Long live Windows?"

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amigarlz 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 23-Feb-2013 23:58:36
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Totally agree with PR, he just dont want to pay ridiculous amounts for underpowered hardware.

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Develin 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 7:06:15
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Posts: 443
From: Karlstad, Sweden

Using OS4 on perfect PPC-hardware make no sense at all sadly =(
User limited, low powered, way to expensive solutions seems to be just what it's all about... I wonder if that is because some users want to feel special some how ?

A continuation of the "moana loader" can only lead to more end users and more possible developers on OS4, but I guess the one managing the project doesn't seem that's a good thing because it's very logical...

sigh

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Lazi 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 7:55:06
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From: Pomaz, Hungary

I think it would be a fair model that if you can transfer your OS to a new machine after six or seven years. Why should the OS be handled other ways than any other software? If you buy an ordinary apllication you can use it forever if you can change machines which can run the same OS.

Other way would be a crossgrade option.

However if paid updates/new versions are released more frequent there is no need to transfer old OS to anywhere.

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 8:46:24
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@PR

So sounds like you have had the broken A1 laying around for ages. Why not sell the A1 motherboard on ebay to reclaim some money(someone will attempt to salvage it), sell the ram to another A1 user, sell the OS4.1 again to another A1 user(I only upgraged last year on my A1, theres still users out there).

And then save up for a Sam or something, as with anything the longer you own it, the less money you can get from it, even if 'broken'.

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 10:11:37
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From: CRO

There are 2 other very similar Amigaoid OSes that come on very cheap hardware. I'd suggest getting either a dedicated MOS or AROS machine, which should be very cheap, and saving on the side for a new OS4 board, be it something second hand or new.

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:21:34
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@Trixie

Quote:
If your PC bites the dust, will you say "Long live Windows?"

if the replacement system is insanely priced in comparison to alternatives, the sane thing would be to reconsider options, dont you think?

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Antique 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:25:52
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@wawa

If that's the case, all would use windows, don't you think??

Quote:
If the replacement system is insanely priced in comparison to alternatives, the sane thing would be to reconsider options, dont you think?

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:27:20
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@wawa

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if the replacement system is insanely priced in comparison to alternatives


1000 EUR is insane price? Sure, it is much chaper to look for some 10 years old Mac in the trash can.

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wawa 
Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:34:09
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@pavlor

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1000 EUR is insane price?

in comparison to hardware performance, reliability, its availability, driver support and the software availability, well, yes. very much. have i forgotten something?

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:41:34
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From: United States of Europe

@PR

I bought a used Sam a month a ago and I'm very plased to it.

It is Sam 440ep Flex and I have to say that I'm surpriced how well it works. Everybody has said that Flex is too weak, but I haven't noticed that yet. Web surfing works very well, games like Quake 2/3 runs nicely etc.

OS4 started to work out of the box and AmiUpdate has worked very well.

Hyperion has choosed to use custom hardware, so making OS4 port to used Macs would be like anal rape for their partners, aCube and A-Eon.

I wouldn't use any other OS than Mac OS with Apple hardware. Amiga has custom hardware.

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Re: OS4 on Macintosh again
Posted on 24-Feb-2013 11:56:12
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@wawa

Quote:
in comparison to hardware performance, reliability, its availability, driver support and the software availability, well, yes. very much. have i forgotten something?


x86 PC of my brother was even more expensive and its Amiga compatibility is much worser than in case of A1-500. Well, I can use one core for AROS (nice for Windows95 games in DosBox), but I rather run WinUAE with more complete OS.

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