I never knew. My Access apparently can boot from CD. Now, this would be infinitely more useful to me than floppy as rescue media (I was using a laptop harddrive and it broke, then at Amigatreff 2013 we set up a harddrive for it and I broke that as well. Not having a good year for harddisks. Luckily I have like 20 spares for this exact reason).

ANYHOO, is there anything needed to create a bootable CD for classic Amiga (think 1200 with CDROM and drivers in ROM)? Preferably I would make this CD under Linux, since my Access is sort of dead it's a chicken-and-egg problem.

Antique sort of almost offered to install 3.5 on a harddrive for me, but if I can fix my own problems I'm always more proud of that

cd0 pops up in the early start menu, but what it supports regarding filesystems is still a bit of an unknown. Come to think of it, I don't remember ever having struggled with CD/ISO9660 drivers on that machine, but it was many moons ago I installed it last.

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@olegil

Idefix comes with CD32 "emulator" wich allows to boot from CD. It might be easiest way to get cd boot.

@utri007

Did you even read what I wrote? The machine has this in flashrom already, I just wonder is there anything that is supposed to be on the CD that isn't normally put there by a CD writer on Linux?

I guess I can't expect people to have any experience with Access hardware, so let the testing commence! Second step after getting it back up and running should be to figure out what I can do with that ISA connector. Should have the tools to reverse engineer it here now, and surely a driver cannot be THAT difficult

Last edited by olegil on 26-Feb-2013 at 09:41 AM.

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

I read what you wrote, but still, cd32 emulator could easiest way to get more benefit of it. What is name of cd device on rom? Can you rip it to file? :)

There has been lots of talk of this on EAB, when they have made cd32 colletions, mean making amiga bootable cd

@utri007

Given that the reason I want to boot from CD is that I need to install OS on a new/old wiped harddrive due to an accident involving chocolate, a packet of crisps, two consenting adult males, a dinner table and lack of ESD/mechanical protection around the device, I have very little hope of extracting the device driver right now

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

Do you have any of those old Amiga Format/CU Amiga Cds around? They boot to the OS, wich might help you.

@olegil

IIRC you need some files from the developer CD. MakeCD allows you to create bootable CDs using these files.

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@utri007

I was just thinking the same. I must have one of those somewhere. Will have a look through my cold storage tonight. Need to get a new harddrive from there as well, but this time I'll let it bake for quite some time before trying to power up...

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

If you agenda is to install a cd based os (os3.5/3.9) then you could always just make a minimal install of os3.0/3.1 to a rad disk and then mount an iso of os3.5/3.9 on a partition accessible to than install, and install that way.

Or was this not what you was trying to achieve?

@olegil

I thnk you can create a bootable cd in the sameway you create a bootable floppy disk. If your system can "see" and access the cd-rom since the startup I see no point it shouldn't work.. I remember that MakeCD can create bootable cd for amiga os and i can check it for you as i am a registered user of MakeCD and have the orginal box with manual..

The second option is to create a bootable floppy disk, but you already know this..

I, for myself, created a bootable floppy disk that boot directly into Voodoo and Radeon under Amiga OS 3.9. In this way I have not to turn on the tv, I work directly with the monitor..

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@fishy_fis

I am trying to achieve installing 3.5 on the machine without having preloaded anything to floppy or HD. I am beginning to suspect it can do it, I just haven't had a chance to try yet.

3.5 is on a CD _somewhere_ (as is 3.9, but this machine always ran 3.5, with my 3.9 on my A1200), I just need to find it. I think I'll find a cover disk first, copying over from that should give me a good starting point if it boots.

Edit: I actually had one of those CD32 game compilations sitting on my laptop, has followed me from about 6 years ago when I bought a CD32 and didn't have anything to test it with. Turns out I couldn't make a SINGLE CD which it would accept without read errors, but this shouldn't be a problem with the Access and the slimline CDROM I have there So I'll burn that and try. Unfortunately, my laptops DVD-writer has stopped reading and writing CDs. This is getting slightly silly.

Last edited by olegil on 26-Feb-2013 at 02:01 PM.

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@nubechecorre

Unfortunately, given that this is currently my only working Amiga with a CDROM, MakeCD isn't entirely within reach yet.

Hence the phrasing: Can this be done from Linux (or Windows 7)?

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

All you need to do for a normal Amiga is set the system type field in the ISO image to "AMIGA BOOT" (most CD writing tools let you change this, although the recent trend seems to be to remove as many options as possible, so it might be hidden or inaccessible in newer commercial Windows based tools)

No need to faff around with CDTV.TM or CD32.TM files unless you're booting on a CDTV or CD32.

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