@Hondo

In the land of product design, test and release it's a mere blink of an eye. When large companies release multiple products in a short time it only means they've got multiple teams working on them (incidentally this is why those who release many products have such a hard time unifying looks and user interfaces across different products).

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@olegil

Maybe a machine designed to use linux (too) could have a good success. I remember the yellowstation workstation that was really cool. The x1000 runs already 5 linux distributions, i guess, and the AmigaOne 500 runs too some Linux flavours.

I think that could really be a ver actractive solution even for Linux fans.

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@AmigaBlitter

People generally won't buy a non-mainstream machine to run a mainstream OS.

To attract the Linux crowd you would need a killer feature, something done either very, very right or at least very, very different (in an appealing way). A NORflash large enough to contain kernel and initrd in addition to the bootloader itself would be a good start. That's how my 5121e system boots, U-Boot in parallell flash loads kernel and initrd from flash directly into memory, can give very nice boot times. Flash is then mounted as a set of MTD partitions in Linux, allowing read/write access there.

For my P1025 project I'm testing if it can boot sensibly from both SPI flash (still should have room for U-Boot+kernel+initrd) and a microSD. The latter would be awesome, just prepare a new microSD containing bootloader in "boot sector", imagine the ease of upgrading both for developers and end users. And extremely easy to do rescue operations, just send out a new microSD (should even send out spares with the card in the original shipment )

Alternatively, make Linux (or AmigaOS, like on the original Amiga) itself be the bootloader. Perfectly possible if one wanted to go all the way

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@AmigaBlitter

To compete in the land of Linux PPC fans, one should design better than 5000MIPS single board computer that costs same or less than P-Cubed by Servergy. ((~USD199?)

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@KimmoK

Well, yes. And have a 45 inch screen but still fit in my pocket, etc.

classic Dilbert moment, from back in '94:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1994-02-20/

Edit: Btw, did you mean 5000 or 50000 MIPS?

Cause I can make a quad 1200MHz e500mc system for not much more than 200USD, so that should be more than 5000 MIPS under most any definition
Hardly a challenge worth spending time on

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

Powerpc is alive:



powerpc

@amitv

I like this slide in particular:

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@AmigaBlitter

Moreover, PowerIsa 2.07 published: https://www.power.org/documentation/power-isa-version-2-07/

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@amitv

Yes, PowerPC is very much alive: thousands are sold every day in home gaming consoles, and Freescale manufactures those pretty $100 powerful QoriQ MCU's that would do a really nice Amiga system.

@amitv

Quote:

Powerpc is alive: powerpc

interesting comments.

some highest Coremark scores:
IBM POWER7 336196.25
Intel Xeon E5-2650 291957.48
Tilera TILE-Gx8072 230195.61
Freescale T4240 187873.61
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Intel Core i7-3930K 150962.39
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ARM Cortex-A9 (Exynos4 Quad) 22243.00

http://www.coremark.org/benchmark/index.php?pg=benchmark

So PowerPC seems too powerfull... let's go ARM!

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@KimmoK

Those are interesting numbers :)

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@KimmoK

Yes PPC, next Amiga will a POWER7 Server for 20.000$

@OlafS25

Now you're just being silly. The T4240 will do just fine.

An A9, however...

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

I remember a link on ebay with such a system and could not resist

But anyway if you compare specs of different processors you must also look at the prices. That PPC theoretical is competitive to X86/64 never was in doubt but it is too expensive.

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @KimmoK Yes PPC, next Amiga will a POWER7 Server for 20.000$

Also you will save loads of heating bill with CPU which haves TPD of 200W :)

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Rose wrote: @OlafS25 Also you will save loads of heating bill with CPU which haves TPD of 200W :)

Yes, and with IBM's Rear Door Heat Exchanger you will have hot water too.

@wawa

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wawa wrote: @amitv Quote: Powerpc is alive: powerpc interesting comments.

indeed!

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@ppc_addon

is it you? the avatar seems to fit.

@KimmoK

those two... really interesting...

Freescale T4240 187873.61
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Intel Core i7-3930K 150962.39

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