Hey all,

I was wondering if Amiga had a program like FRAPS, which allows you to record what you do on the computer to post elsewhere. Thanks.

Ed

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@edponpon

SREC is an app to look at.

It worked on my X1000 less sound of course.

If they ever update this app to allow sound and all to work, that would be sweet.

tj

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edponpon wrote: Hey all, I was wondering if Amiga had a program like FRAPS, which allows you to record what you do on the computer to post elsewhere. Thanks. Ed

I never heard of FRAPS - but you might want to have a closer look at Xabier Payet's 'Snapshoter' - as far as I unsderstood you it does what you want...

EDIT:
I just tried it in the Windows version here at work to record a video of my actions on the screen and it works fine.
The recorded .avi-file is stored in Snapshoter's "Video" drawer and can be played with any suitable player.

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There is also "ScreenCam". Unfortunately it only records video (with audio via AHI) in a proprietary format. I didn't have the time to make an <your favourite video format> export function. If anyone is interested, it might be done.
The reason why I had choosen an own format is, that it targets long tutorials with relatively few screen changes, and therefore packs the video files insanely small. It is NOT efficient to record playing a 3D game or something.

http://www.hd-rec.de/Archive/ScreenCam.lha

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@edponpon

You should try SRec, it's really very good.

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Wanderer wrote: There is also "ScreenCam". Unfortunately it only records video (with audio via AHI) in a proprietary format. I didn't have the time to make an export function. If anyone is interested, it might be done. The reason why I had choosen an own format is, that it targets long tutorials with relatively few screen changes, and therefore packs the video files insanely small. It is NOT efficient to record playing a 3D game or something. http://www.hd-rec.de/Archive/ScreenCam.lha

Hmmmm - which platforms are supported by ScreenCam?

Up to now I used SnapShoter, as it is a Hollywood application and supports Apple, AOS 3.x, WarpOS, AOS 4.x, MOS, Aros and Windows.

I like to be able to use the same application at work on my WinPC and at Home on my Amiga (although it is really slow on classic Amigas - even on PPC equipped)...

At work I use it for creating documentations.
I can take screenshots of the entire screen or sections of it. I can switch to collage mode, where I can manipulate the screenshot by e.g. adding water mark or placing arrows with explaining text.
And I also can take an .avi video of my actions on screen to demonstrate e.g. how to operate a new software.

Could I also use ScreenCam for this?

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@Dandy

No. ScreenCam is an Amiga only program (68K), but works on OS4 and MOS I guess.
It has _no_ WYSIWIG video editing functionality.

What it does in the first step is taking constantly screenshots, diff'ing them and stores the deltas as .png image. At the same time is creates a text file that tells which image to blit to the output at which time stamp. In a similar way it stores mouse actions and audio. If you dont speak or dont do anything on the screen, it doesnt need any storage space.

Once recorded, you can edit those text files, if you want, and the result is then "encoded" into one binary file in SCM format. (ScreenCam movie!). I thought about adding other encoders via FFMPEG, so you can use it with youtube or whatever.

There is one feature I really like. When encoding, you can select "remove boring sceenes", which time-compresses passages where nothing really happens. That "compacts" a video usually by 1:2, since the "thinking" of the presenter is removed.
You can also use this feature to think more during you record, knowing that this will be removed later anyway if you dont speak or do actions on the screen.

But according your descritpion, ScreenCam is not exactly what you need.

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@Wanderer

If this program can speed / record movements of the Workbench at least at 25/30 fps then it is good. Most videos from Youtube I saw had only 10-15 fps which looks very slow and "jerky"... which is not good for presentation at all.

I will test it for tonight I suppose.

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@djnick

25-30FPS is only possible on WinUAE at a moderate resolution. On PPC is less, and on Classic I think only 1-2FPS @640x480.

The Video is recorded at low priority, that has two benefits:

1. It does not slow the system down while you show something on the computer (remember, Amiga is still single-core)
2. If some heavy rendering on going on, like a website or so, the Video capturer doesnt get CPU cycles and only captures the final image.

The mouse movements are captured independent at high priority, above your Application, so that the movement is smooth, e.g 30 FPS is no problem.

However, dont waste your time. I remember now there were some problems with AHI. Actually I was the only one who used the AHI device interface for recording in Amiga history - EVER.
Result is, that the functionality is inherently broken.

I have also code for the library interface, but I wanted to be able to play AHI and record at the same time, means I dont want to lock the audio hardware excusively. (man, AHI really sucks!).

Lets see how hard it is to make an mpeg export filter via ffmpeg before you play around with it. and- remember it is Amiga only software.
I did my Screen Videos with Windoze Software so far, using WinUAE.

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@Wanderer

Can this new driver with overlay help??? I know Fraps uses overlay and all it saves goes not below 60fps, even on highest [full HD!] resolutions [on my 8gb ram and quad core]...

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@djnick

You can't compare an ePCI, Quadcore x86 CPU to an AGP single core PPC or 68K Emulation. First of all because ePCI reads from the screen 100 times faster than AGP, and second you can afford to just dedicate a full core for the encoding process, while on our Amigas we have to do capturing, encoding and "playing the acutal game" on the same core.
Also, you cannot compare FRAPS as a commercial software with our toy projects.

BUT, with ScreenCam or SREC you can capture Videos on your Amiga, which is quite cool given the hardware specs.

ScreenCam was actually made for Amiblitz3 to record Tutorials. A 10min Tutorial can be squeezed into maybe 1-3 MB file. That's much much smaller than an MPEG Video for the same content. But it is heavily tuned to static screens.

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@Wanderer

If recordings is below 25-30 fps, it won`t be that usable...

Then the only one way of recording would be - record gfx output to PC capturing software.

I will just have to figure how that works. I have all possible DVI / gfx cable inputs / outputs combinations. I haven't recorded anything except Tweens japanese game play, take a look, FRAPS recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVjwA_NcNrU

Thanks.

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@djnick

The Video doesnt play in Germany due to Copyright violations

Anyway, the limiting factor is the hardware, how fast it can read from the VMEM. A Classic is too slow for that.

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