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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 18-Feb-2012 1:45:26
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| @Flystone Why are you even thinking of going something as closed as ipad?? It does not even support proper multitasking... You cant even have a irc client running in background with the OS terminating it for you after a few mins of "inactivity".
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 18-Feb-2012 2:42:18
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heh 4096 posts _________________ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 6:53:04
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| @Kicko I just wanted to have some news ..... I think if there was any info, it would keep the interest high ....
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 6:56:37
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| @Metalheart
????? should I worry?!!!! uaaaaa!
is a Labrador / Schnauzer! is my baby!!!! now weighs 45 kg!!!
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 7:06:22
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It is not for me, but I was giving to my dad! He needs a simple and easy to use.! In the past I have given my windows computer and it was a disaster.! Today has a minimac (powerpc) and can do everything! I wanted to give the 'Ipad3 just because it is not intel, and has a quad-processor! I work there from morning to night with computers intel and I seem to break out ..... I think that this is also one of the reasons of the global crisis ..... There is simplicity and fluidity in work processes when working with microsoft / intel. (my opinion)! I just wanted some news on the netbook because it seemed like a good strategy for Apple to release to the news segments so as to arouse interest! ..... I hope that anyone who knows can give us some news!!! Sorry for the delay of my answer, but where I live I do not have internet at my house ...... but only at work ..... (this is Italy) sich! May at this point thanks to all!
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 14:29:55
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| @Flystone
Not all publicity is good. Apple announces only finished products that can ship in 90 days or lees. One of the problems in the Amiga OS world is announcements for things that are very very late or never happen. The AmigaOne X1000 is a good example. It was to debut six months after it was announced, there was some good publicity. It became a running joke as the product became later and later, that press releases would say "everything going to plan."
I much prefer no information than an announcement of a product that never shows up or shows up a year or two late.
I'll buy the netbook if and when it becomes available, I will buy an iPad 3 to replace my ageing iPad 1 if and when it becomes available. But if some goodie becomes available first it may just get my money instead. |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 15:20:56
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| I much prefer no information than an announcement of a product that never shows up or shows up a year or two late. |
Well CUSA announced their Amigas in about Sept 2010 too, that is closing to X1000 missdates, and that is even without new OS and any new hardware 
Amiga Inc also promised new PPC boards from ACK I believe.
Yes, its sad, but it was mainly because OS is slowly developing, A-EON and Varisys were much faster. They could sell it much earlier but with Linux only.
With Acube and now A-EON experience has shown to trust that product will appear.Last edited by vox on 20-Feb-2012 at 03:21 PM.
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 18:01:41
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 21:33:02
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Unfortunately my Amiga Future Magazines are in a room where people are right now sleeping, so i cant check this right now, but if I correctly remember, Issue 94 (newest and first full color issue) mentioned Amiga OS4 netbook project which would be PPC based, aimed at summer release and priced at 300-500 (USD or EUR?)
Thats all i know about it and want one. |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 21:45:19
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It's an open secret that the only candidate for the OS4 netbook is a Limebook. Since the "Amiga netbook" will be an existing netbook design it's pretty easy: there's no other ppc netbook available on the worldwide market than the limebook. And that one is slow but rather cheap. Dunno how much the cache issues of the 512x series will trouble OS4 and lead to a speed penatly though, but I guess that's a rather minor problem. Anyway, a 400MHz e300 processor is nice enough to have some fun with, but too weak to be more than a toy (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001) |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 20-Feb-2012 22:06:35
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It's a LimePC netbook with a e300 core. Go look on their website. There really isn't much mystery here. |
so we are back to that again eh?
so how do you know? , i asked last time too but you didn't answer me. a source would be nice just so i know what to expect in terms of speed and useability.
oh and no, saying that its the only one it could be is not a good enough answer.
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 2:37:04
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Its time to start save money for an OS 4 laptop! Right? If not start save money now, Let me guess!, Oh Im going to listen people complain about the price again and again. _________________ AmigaOne X5000, AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 special super 2 cores prepared super edition v75 christmas speciale uniqe quadro prepared AmigaOS... TWO MORE YEARS IS NOTHING IF YOU BEEN WAITING SINCE 1994.. |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 2:57:33
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| so we are back to that again eh? so how do you know? , i asked last time too but you didn't answer me. a source would be nice just so i know what to expect in terms of speed and useability. |
Pure speculation. Hyperion sais they got OS running on the nettop already (like with X1000 before), just matter of drivers, LimePC is only avail PPC nettop, and matches their specs in everything but the display size (Hyperion promised a bit bigger one ...)
But anyway that is all subject to change.
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Features (all subject to change) 12 inch 1024 X 768 Screen e300 PPC CPU, Rumored to be 400Mhz (could be up to 800Mhz) 256mb Ram (maybe 512mb or as an option) PowerVR Graphics Chip USB, Ethernet, WiFi Video Out (maybe) SSD (4Gb to 16Gb) $300 to $500 OS4 already runs on the device. _________________ OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way! SinclairQL and WII U lover :D YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 3:30:30
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It's a LimePC netbook with a e300 core. Go look on their website. There really isn't much mystery here. |
so we are back to that again eh?
so how do you know? , i asked last time too but you didn't answer me. a source would be nice just so i know what to expect in terms of speed and useability.
oh and no, saying that its the only one it could be is not a good enough answer.
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Steve Solie did not reveal the name of the "existing" netbook design that was being used for the new OS4 Netbook (he did confirm that it was an existing product that was already finished, but would be possibly offered with some changes to components and screen size), but he did give a wry smile when he stated that "everyone" already pretty much knows what it is (or something very like that statement, I can't remember all of his exact words). This was at last year's AmiWest Show where the Netbook was discussed and announced. Steve could have said that just to throw people off the right track, or he could have been giving a hint to answer all the questions, so he would not have to keep answering the same question over and over again.
You can interpret his comment and smile any way you want to, but the impression I got from his comment and facial expression is that I think that there is a pretty good chance that WolfToTheMoon is probably right with his guess about it being a LimePC Netbook.
It is yet to be seen what components they are going to change, if any, and what screen sizes will be available. Also it is not known what changes will be made to the Netbook case and/or keyboard to make it more of an AmigaOne Netbook.
I hope that it does not take them too much longer to complete the drivers and choose the components that they are going to offer in this Netbook, so they can begin selling them and this will increase the numbers of OS4.1.5 users (and hopefully more developers too). I also hope that Hyperion is getting these new OS4 Netbooks produced at a very low price and can afford to have at least 500 of them produced to keep the production costs as low as possible, but I understand that the money required for such a large production run is hard to come up with in such a tiny market as the Amiga now provides. 500 Netbooks might be a bit too optimistic for a first production run of the OS4 Netbook, I don't know? I can only hope that they can easily sell that many Netbooks with OS4 installed, since it will be the first PPC portable available to run OS4 on and many OS4 users will want to have a portable device to take OS4 with them where ever they go. I just hope that they can keep the price for the OS4 Netbook closer to $300, instead of the higher estimated cost of $500.
I bought and gave away two G4 MacMini's to new MorphOS programmers last month (shipped this month) and when the Hyperion Netbook is released, it will be easier for me to find and buy used OS4.x computers to donate to programmers, if some of the owners of original AmigaOne models decide to upgrade to a SAM460ex, an X1000, or decide they can get by with the performance of the new OS4.x Netbook. Also, if the price is low enough for the Netbook itself, I might be able to afford to buy one or two of them per year to donate to new OS4.x programmers.
My main focus from now on is how to get more new programmers & old programmers to come back, or become active again (for OS4.x, MorphOS, AROS and AmigaOS3.x), AND how to improve my own weak programming skills.Last edited by amigadave on 21-Feb-2012 at 03:49 AM. Last edited by amigadave on 21-Feb-2012 at 03:38 AM.
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 12:32:25
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 12:33:57
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| I bought and gave away two G4 MacMini's to new MorphOS programmers last month (shipped this month) and when the Hyperion Netbook is released, it will be easier for me to find and buy used OS4.x computers to donate to programmers, if some of the owners of original AmigaOne models decide to upgrade to a SAM460ex, an X1000, or decide they can get by with the performance of the new OS4.x Netbook. Also, if the price is low enough for the Netbook itself, I might be able to afford to buy one or two of them per year to donate to new OS4.x programmers. |
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 12:51:17
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I'm afraid, not quite true...
I remember Steven Solie later said probably but he was not sure. His conversation with Hyperion was made by phone and not very good quality. 12 inch was never confirmed.
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 13:05:50
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Soundcard drivers for sam460 and AmigaOne 500 are out since sometime if memory serves well.. 
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 13:07:21
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Just get the ipad3 and you dont need to wait. |
UPS, is it out already? I must have missed that!
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Re: Amiga netbook news?! Posted on 21-Feb-2012 13:15:33
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Are all netbooks made in China/Asia under the usual Apple-like factories, which tend to exploit their assembly workers? I'm excited about the Amiga netbook idea, but I'm on a crusade to NOT buy anything assembled in China unless there are 3rd-party human rights-promoting organizations (such as Verite) overseeing and working with the factories. |
Well, Apple has some rights-verifying organization looking into since the FOX-Conn case. Btw, I know some chinese which work in an Apple factory and (at least in that particular factory) the work conditions are absolutely normal. She get's payed and the facory is clean.
Sadly most people do not care about that. Look how many even here are upset about the price for Amigas. But AFAIK Sams are built in Italy and A1X1000 in UK, which also keeps the price up.
whatever..
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