I had a number of the hybrid drives completely stop working shortly after purchasing them. Had them in my WHS box, iirc. Personally I'd avoid them like the plague - I honestly wouldn't take one if they were free, and really didn't see much of a performance improvement with them, but the price on the hybrids is competitive.

SSD's can be had for under a buck a gig for 120-ish GB models lately, no reason not to go full SSD for boot/OS partitions, IMO.

The higher capacity (300-500 GB+) ones are the models that still command a hefty premium over their mechanical counterparts. I recently picked up a couple OCZ 240 GB SSD's for about $160 a pop and they are running just great.[quote]

@cv643d

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If you got the para to purchase an X1000 surely you can splurge a bit and get an SSD no?

Ouch! You've got me by the balls there. Yes, I believe you are correct. I am investigating now. I've been looking at the Crucial SSD drives. They are part of Micron.

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@Rob

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Just one thing. Momentus XT is the previous generation. Seagate have decided to label the latest generation as SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive), these are actually the third generation and have improved firmware for organising the data onto the 8GB of solid state.

I Googled the Momentus XT and saw that information when browsing their website. I sure don't keep up on tech stuff like I use to in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The Commodore mess followed by the Amiga, Inc. mess sure took the wind out of my sails. Now I have trouble reading for any length of time.

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Looking through the various articles out there it seems that only the 750GB model has 7200rpm drive and the 500GB and 1TB models have a 5400rpm drive. I expect that when the desktop models arrive they will probably all have 7200rpm drive and probably cost a little less. I still haven't found info on when the desktop variants will go on sale.

I like to have the 3.5 inch, but the 2.5 will do with the adapter. One could even hammer in a wedge of wood to keep it solid.

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@Rob

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Quote: If you got the para to purchase an X1000 surely you can splurge a bit and get an SSD no? I think Moxee said he had quite a substantial expenditure on home maintenance last year, I think it was hit and miss as to whether he'd be able to get an X1000. People's financial situation can quickly change too.

Man, you have a good memory!

September 2005
- Had to tear off the complete roof of my 2-car garage due to the damage inflicted by the weight of Mount St. Helens ash in 1980. This house was my parents house and evidently my Dad couldn't get out there and shovel it off. When re-shingling we found the roof had sags and broken beams. $7,000 out of pocket.

July 2008
- Had to replace the house roof for the same reasons. Only $6,000 out of pocket this time. Not as much damage. If my parents had looked for damage back in 1980 I'll bet their insurance would have paid for both repairs.

April 2012
- Replace entire HVAC system. Remove from craw space and install new unit in hallway closet. Remove asbestos wrapping from ducts and re-route ducting to new unit. $11,000 out of pocket.

So, yes it has been expensive deciding that I wanted to live in the house where I grew up.

I did bite the bullet last summer and get an X1000 though. What the hell, do I want to leave anything for my relatives to fight over?

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@Duce

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I had a number of the hybrid drives completely stop working shortly after purchasing them. Had them in my WHS box, iirc. Personally I'd avoid them like the plague - I honestly wouldn't take one if they were free

I've had no problem with mine so far. Maybe you just had bad luck.

@Moxee

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Man, you have a good memory!

Sometimes it feels like a punishment.

I'm now running an AmigaoneXE without HDD. But this seems to put the drain on the PSU too low. It appears to start a continuous extremely loud alarm noise. Not right at power on, but within one hour or so. Which means trying out other units (that are decent enough to check this) would be nerve wracking.

Maybe I need to put the spinning drive back. If I remember correctly, I used to have just the SSD last year too, just without the option to boot Linux (other thread), no alarms.

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: Pegasos (ff) 512 MB & MorphOS
Praise seitan.

@Duce

For Amiga OS4 or MorphOS we don't need hard disk of 500 or more GBytes, with 60 GB is too, because the both OS with 2-3 GBytes works fine, and for multimedia, well, there are pendrives.

@Templario

I use and OWC Legacy SSD (PATA) in my powerbook.

In my Amiga 3000D I use a OWC SATA 3 via a ACARD SATA/SCSI adapter.

OWC's autotrim. They have been great in my systems...

Good Luck,

Matt

@Matt3k

Thanks, now I'm try to find one adapter for my MacMini and to can use one SSD SATA hard disk in this Apple machine that use the old IDE hard disk, but I think that the big problem is the limit space inside the MACMini to put one SSD har disk plus one SATA-IDE adapter, but maybe that there is this card. I don't know because in my city these hardware goodies are impossible to find, even in some shop in Spain.

@Templario

SSD drives are extremely expensive, and the benefit of having one wouldn't be noticeable on a fast booting os as os4 or morphos. It make sense on a heavy os, like linux, windows or osx, where having the system partition on a ssd increases the system response. At the end, it's your money, but i will keep on mechanical drives until ssd comes at normal prices. Also, not having trim is a BIG issue, as the wearing over sequential writes can put the performance way down.

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@Templario

No problem.

The Legacy drives with PATA are one of the few options for SSD where room is tight.

I buy all my items at macsales.com, not sure if they sell world wide.

The Acard fits nicely in a bigbox amiga to convert SATA to SCSI/IDE.

Good luck!

Matt

@_ThEcRoW

Performance isn't the reason why I got the SSD. Ever since I got my first HDD I've waited for the day to get rid of them.

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: A500/1MB
: Pegasos (ff) 512 MB & MorphOS
Praise seitan.

@_ThEcRoW

The speed of SSD's even on OS4 is extremely noticeable vs. traditional mechanical drives.

Last 120 GB SSD I bought was $99 (on sale, OCZ). Not as cheap as mechanical drives at a price per gig level, but they have come down a long ways.

@Thread

I'd just like to point out, that you can buy good SSD drives at a reasonable price from http://www.crucial.com/ This is where I got mine from :)

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@Matt3k

Thanks for the link, but where is the adapter for IDE-SATA? because the SSD drives are SATA and for the newest Macs.

@Templario

The legacy drives by owc are actually IDE(PATA) SSD's. They are about your only choice for an SSD in a Powerbook.

For a SATA drive I use the ACARD ARS-2000SUP in my 3000D, one thing to not about this adapter is that it is not compatible with the Warp Engine SCSI. It does work fine with the 3000's scsi controller and the Cyberstorm MKIII scsi.

Good luck!

Matt

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Templario wrote: @Duce For Amiga OS4 or MorphOS we don't need hard disk of 500 or more GBytes, with 60 GB is too, because the both OS with 2-3 GBytes works fine, and for multimedia, well, there are pendrives.

Bit of a generalization there - everyone has different requirements for storage. I couldn't even fit 1/3 of my "multimedia" files on the largest USB thumb/pen drive available. Every user has a different use case. Some people will tell you a modern daily driver PC has no use for more than 6-8 GB of RAM, and I wish my mobo supported more than the 32 GB I have installed, heh.

I could throw 2 2 TB drives in my SAM machine and use every last meg of storage, and in fact do use that much - but rather than store the data locally on the SAM I just pull data off my WHS machine as needed. I've got 1.2 GB of files set aside for the SAM alone, all stored on a server. I run a BBS off the SAM and mirror about half a dozen software repositories (Aminet, OS4 Depot, various Linux repos) and host the on said BBS, and it takes up far more space than I have USB ports.

@Matt3k
I think to put one SSD drive SATA because this is the current format in the device, because to find one SSD hard drive IDE for the Mac MIni is impossible, I have these problems, the current SSD drives are SATA and the MacMini are IDE for hard drives, the problem or question I need one adapter for SSD SATA to IDE and that the size of SSD hard disk plus adapter can enter is the MacMini case, this is the situation and the reason of this post.

Just buy an IDE (PATA) SSD then - they aren't terribly hard to come by if a SATA SSD + adapter won't fit.