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lylehaze 
Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 27-May-2013 3:26:06
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@sundown

If I remember correctly, the docky lets you adjust the "warning temperature" but the "critical shutdown" is fixed at 85c.

Since the processor is rated to operate correctly to 105c and not suffer permanent damage until 130c, I'd say 85 is a nice, conservative number.

Checking the docky docs, you CAN set up the warning levels to launch a script, and shut down from there.. so the ability to shut down lower than 85 is there, if you want to configure it up.

And about leaving it on 24/7.. my first computer, a TRS80 Model 1 Level 2 with the "big" 16 K RAM, was left on 24/7 running home automation software, and it went about 15 years without a bit of trouble before I gave it away fully operational. Of course another good reason to keep it running was because reloading the software from a cassette tape was a pain in the.. well, it was slow.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 27-May-2013 9:46:19
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@klx300r

Nice Video, I do like the white X1K Case.

I love the flexibilty the CFE Menu System offers.

I have a AmigaCD32 option in my X1000 menu which boots directly into a CD32 Emulation

This is a video I filmed on my phone. Quality is not great due to poor light.

CD32 is option 3 on the screen in the vid.

X1000 Booting into CD32 Emulation

I've extended it to do A500, A1200, Amiga Forever, WHDLOAD etc ... Who needs runinuae

Last edited by JurassicC on 27-May-2013 at 09:47 AM.
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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 27-May-2013 13:20:53
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@sundown

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I have a 4850, initializing some gfx cards have been reported reported slow. If the grey a-eon screen is open for a long time, its most likely the gfx card.


Mine's a HD4890. And I think the best of an EOL series makes it slow to start up. My X1000 does nothing for the first 20 seconds. I don't like the monitor to turn off and then on again in the boot process. The machine is on. That's just silly.

The logo screen doesn't seem to be on for long but it is ruined by all this text. I wonder what the point of that was. In any case once I see the logo it still takes a while to boot before it gets to the HD.

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Other things I've done to speed up booting,


I've now put these in place. Perhaps kept under two minutes.

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At 1:40 boot time, my guess is the gfx card init taking too long.


I would agree but I also have a delay after it comes on screen. So there is a futher 40 seconds of setting up hardware that I don't understand.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
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too cool Carl

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
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@klx300r

According to your watch, one minute, according to my watch definately faster than mine!

BTW your YT link crashes iBrowse.

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RodTerl 
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Posted on 27-May-2013 13:50:20
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If the CPU is designed to work to 105C correctly, why is there problems with cooling? Water boils at 100C, letting you use an energy recovery turbine, and if you push it to 120C, you can use the pressurised loop off a vehicle to handle it. And the last time I checked, those compact reliable systems handled hundreds of horsepower, not hundreds of watts.

Of course, the important thing to get 40% plus energy recovery isnt overcooking the CPU, though it helps, its using a larger radiator, to drop the bottom end temperature.

Dont forget, a 20 watt chip with a 25% energy recovery only needs a 15 watt radiator, and the best combined cycle units can hit 60% recovery. 8 watts of electrical power in, 8 watts of heat out, 20 watts of processing power in the loop.

I beleive the raw temperature in space is minus 100 to plus 150 C though, so some insulation, thermal management is needed, but at the bottom end, the CPU should be able to run at full power for only a couple watts of solar?

Think about it, Curiosity is using a PPC 750 CPU, the Computer has loads of ECCSRAM, the CPU in teh X1000 is even faster, tougher, more capable. And can run the same code?

It costs 1% the price.

Does Trevor know what its radiation limits are yet? We need 100 k rad capability to use on an asteroid miner.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 27-May-2013 16:57:11
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@RodTerl

If the X1000 was 1/3 or 1/4 of price and shipment was one day to get a new one then I do it, and its not like you can just pop in a new CPU if it breaks, If I break it not on warranty, and the X1000 is produced in a limited number, so not worth the risk, over clocking a Sam460 is a lot more realistic project I think.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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If the X1000 was 1/3 or 1/4 of price and shipment was one day to get a new one then I do it, and its not like you can just pop in a new CPU if it breaks, If I break it not on warranty, and the X1000 is produced in a limited number, so not worth the risk, over clocking a Sam460 is a lot more realistic project I think.


Would not be that paranoid, its the CPU that is hard to get, Varisys is able to fix boards even after warranty, off course that would cost. And its laptop (mobile targetted) designed CPU, should not die easily - should be quite colder then G5. Maximum 7 W at 2 GHz, as name suggests (Power Efficient)

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 19:59:12
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@JurassicC

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This is a video I filmed on my phone. Quality is not great due to poor light. CD32 is option 3 on the screen in the vid. X1000 Booting into CD32 Emulation


Great, send me CFE boot menu contents for that option

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 20:13:55
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I just suggest you invest in an SSD hard drive.
there are bow some 256Gb ones that are not that expensive, and you would then boot certainly faster than my win8 machine, who boots in 6 seconds.

winuae itself boots almost instantly (2 secs?) on a win3.9 install in this machine;)

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vox 
Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 20:49:05
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@DC_Edge

On that SSD topic, AmigaOS 4 requires some Trim free SSDs!?
AmigaKit doesnt sell any, I would buy it locally for AmigaOS 4 only
but I need to know which?

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 21:04:58
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@vox

How does it require this?

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Posted on 15-Oct-2013 21:38:45
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@Thematic

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How does it require this?


Well, AmigaOS doesn‚t have SDD TRIM so drive that do it on themselves
would be best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1563&p=19478&hilit=SSD#p19478

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 21:53:09
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@vox
hmm.. im not sure, but does it really matter in day to day usage? i have never paid attention to it and till now i used ssds only on my (genuine) amigas (ive got my microsoft surface just yesterday :P ). sure this might have went unnoticed on such incapable systems.

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vox 
Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 22:01:03
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@wawa

Yes, disk acess time is really improved. File copy
is way faster and leasts longer - less likely to failure.

Buying 64GB model is ideal for AmigaOS 4 boot.

http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd

Works on MOS too
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37604&forum=33

If you ment the TRIM support, it matters a lot!
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/trim-that-drive-why-trim-matte-142681

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Thematic 
Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 23:04:20
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@vox

You mean a drive with single level cell flash banks. No need to erase bits!

Last edited by Thematic on 15-Oct-2013 at 11:06 PM.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 15-Oct-2013 23:30:26
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@Thematic

Slc? I think this is recommended anyway.

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Re: As an AmigaOne X1000 owner/operator
Posted on 16-Oct-2013 0:11:31
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@wawa

Yes I typed slc first but thought that's unnecessarily vague.

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