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BrandonLee 
First reviews not in? ;)
Posted on 1-Feb-2012 17:27:20
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Hey, X1000 guys, what's up with the reviews? ;)

I'm extremely curious about seeing how the machine performs.
Even if it's an incomplete, first impressions, review, please...hurry it up. ;)))

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@BrandonLee

I thought there would be more videos too?

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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Come on guys! Imagine you start dating with supermodel. It will take some time before you go out from your apartment and show your friends some hot videos...

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@BrandonLee

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Even if it's an incomplete, first impressions, review, please...hurry it up. ;)))


Four reasons why I haven't done anything:

1. I just haven't had the time. Pathetic excuse I know but we're chocka at work and I cannot afford to spend the time away - gone are the days of lots of free time like when I last used an Amiga!

2. I've been away from the Amiga for so long that it is a bit of a learning curve for me. Also I have missed out on the whole of OS4 as it has developed. I have lots of questions I want to ask the support forums but I don't as yet have access.

3. Lack of software. I don't even have an OS 4.1.5 CD yet so I am having to download everything from the net and set it up. Which is fine but it is a bit of a bumpy road. After 17 years on Windows you forget just how much you take for granted. Universal clipboard for one! But perhaps there is an app for that - I seem to remember something from the past.

4. Quite a lot of the programs I have tried to run don't work (Blender, Octamed). This isn't to say that they won't work it's just that it will take some time to work out how to get them to function and I was waiting on the official support forums opening so I could bombard them with my questions. I want to make sure I am doing everything right otherwise the review wouldn't be fair.

Those of you with lots of OS4 experience will no doubt be able to get everything running much quicker than myself and you will probably get a video or review from these guys sooner.

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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mr2 wrote:
Come on guys! Imagine you start dating with supermodel. It will take some time before you go out from your apartment and show your friends some hot videos...



thanks for the good laugh

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vox 
Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@mr2

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Come on guys! Imagine you start dating with supermodel. It will take some time before you go out from your apartment and show your friends some hot videos...


Nice parallel and a joke, as well as great avatar!

Hope not only users will "tell it to the world" but when AmigaOne goes to a real run and become available for outside world (if ever) ... it would be nice to have it reviewed by some web site like Toms hardware and OS.news that could attract more people.

If ever I say because it looks like because of CPU and board costs production is running in slow volumes that accomodate demand so there is usually more demand then boards. Seems it will be "just for chosen ones"

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@vox

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....as well as great avatar!


Thanks

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If ever I say because it looks like because of CPU and board costs production is running in slow volumes that accomodate demand s


I hope for a smaller and maybe cheaper design. Remember Trevor saying some new projects on the way? And don't forget X1000 is great platform to develop OS itself.

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@mr2

Everyone coulda / shoulda be milking Amiga milk
Live on it!

Yes, looks like X1000 will be quite unique in some hundreds, thousands at best probably. Depends on demand.

Assume that goal is to see does this kind of adventures can be succesfull and move AmigaOS forward. Then some cheaper design is needed to feel the gap between AmigaOne 500 (SAM 460) performance MOS users laugh to so much, and this killer monster

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Re: First reviews not in? ;)
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@vox

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...then some cheaper design is needed to feel the gap


I wouldn't hold my breath...Maybe next year?

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AmigaOne 500 (SAM 460) performance MOS users laugh to so much...


I would may say something nasty about used .... but thats not my style. I dont like to ruin someones fun, like they do.

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I would may say something nasty about used .... but thats not my style. I dont like to ruin someones fun, like they do.

old knife still sharp can be more dangerous then the shiny new one. be carefull not to cut yourself. just an advice from non involved.

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@wawa

No doubt MacMini`s and other PPC Macs are all great machines,
but then again, there is no fun in ruining the fun.

So much effort to prove MOS team did the better choice, in tiny world where
both camps suffer a lot, lack of productivity apps amongst other.

Surely, MOS team could do better to support new hardware, once Genesi abandonded them and Hyperion could release OS4 for PPC Macs too. Hope there will be more common ground in the future.

And hope to see some more X1000 excitements!

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I wouldn't hold my breath...Maybe next year?


Yes, that is on a long rope.
May OS 4.2 and nettop come first.
As well as MOS 3.x and improved AROS.

Timberwolf and some office and our world would made a biggest steps ahead
in long time.

All good news that can be.

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@wawa

Of course it can but thats not the point...The point was I dont like to listen all the time how superior their choices are. Both teams chose their routes and thats it...Have fun, whatever you prefer.

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not that i care but if it was not important to be superior why do the os4 users make all these benchmark threads as well? and then telling others their gear is second hand will not influence these benchmarks much. thats all.

Last edited by wawa on 03-Feb-2012 at 01:38 AM.

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@wawa

In this specific case its just the reaction to the voices that X1000 is nothing special, its less powerfull then the cell phones...maybe little bit silly but just the human reaction.


OK, sorry guys weve hijacked your thread. Where are those damn videos! This one with a big brown box does not count

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@vox

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Yes, looks like X1000 will be quite unique in some hundreds, thousands at best probably. Depends on demand.


Is there an "official" number of AmigaOnes (not X1000s) made/sold?

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not that i care but if it was not important to be superior why do the os4 users make all these benchmark threads as well? and then telling others their gear is second hand will not influence these benchmarks much. thats all.


Because they want to show that X1000 is faster then SAMs and justify the investment or show us its performance in numbers. Surely, its not ment to compete with MorphOS, it can even be a target platform for MOS.
Surely, until G5 support, MOS has just temporarily "lost the crown" of having fastest system with macMini G4, but that is not much related to OS4 as Moana never lived.

In the end, we all invest in OS4 system not because we want fastest systems around (we all can go for cheap x86 for numbers and crunches) but because AOS and MOS are fast even in low specs systems. And don`t mind waiting more for page to render, lame or blender to finish.

MOS choice is win win in terms of money, but with limited repairs and no further manufacturer support as well as eBay as main source, that is less appealing then expensive new product avail from Amikit. That is the main reason why there are no MOS systems listed at Vesalia or AmiKit.

Instead of attacking X1000 MOS team and fans could use X1000 as opportunity to make fast MOS, good XMOS support etc. and have new fancy system they could talk outside too.

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Is there an "official" number of AmigaOnes (not X1000s) made/sold?


No, as well as there are no for Pegasos, Pegasos II, Teron A1s, SAMs or even PPC cards.

Guess is 100 Beta boards + at least as much First contact boards, but we can guess other number too. Surely its in small runs, but its good if it makes other batch possible just as before with A1s, SAMs ...

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it can even be a target platform for MOS.


Unfortunately the MorphOS developers have refused to port MorphOS, even though Trevor has offered an olive branch. I hope that will change...it would be great to see MorphOS on the X1000, too.

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