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jabirulo 
Installing SAM460 linux-debian (trying)
Posted on 26-Jan-2013 16:59:32
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HI trying to install linux in my SAM460 with the help from the web [http://www.locati.it/mario/sam460/squeeze/] but it always gret stuck.

Have a sii3114 with a DVDRW and a HDD80GB connected, SATA onboard disabled. VGA PCIE Radeon HD 6750, 2GB RAM, SAM460ex.

Must I install the Parthenope boot loader in my HDD or can I stay with SLB?

I have 2 TFTs, one on the onboard VGA SM502 and another on the HD6750. I too have a PC with linux/ubuntu and minicom (terminal prog.) to see serial output.

I always get stuck on my serial output asking for LANGUAGE option, keyboard (sam460 or PC-linux) doesn't respond/works on keypress.

Need more data?

TIA

EDIT: sorry, can someone help to change/move this thread it to Amiga PPC Linux forum?

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Re: Installing SAM460 linux-debian (trying)
Posted on 26-Jan-2013 17:30:52
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@jabirulo

I managed to Install Debian Squeeze on my Sam460ex using a a Radeon HD4850 graphics card with the serial output to a Windows PC and using the Ubuntu Live CD to copy the kernel and modules etc to the Linux partition after the Debian install . I have changed video cards to a Radeon HD 6670 since and tried several of the kernels but cant get any video output with the HD6670.Only terminal otput via the PC.
This may be your problem. None of the kernels seem to work with any Radeon cards above the 4000 series.If I need to run Debian I have to switch video cards back to a Radeon HD4670 or HD4850 .

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Posted on 26-Jan-2013 18:26:01
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@Spectre660

So maybe is due to HD6750?
If I understand if I want to make a FIRST install a must have plugged a HD4000series adn the update the kernel/framebufer/whatever to:

Customised Linux kernels
-Latest kernel compiled with framebuffer for both RadeonHD (4xxx, 5xxx and 6xxx series) and SM501: kernel 3.4.24 (TAR GZ archive, kernel log)
-Latest kernel compiled with DRM support for RadeonHD (4xxx, 5xxx and 6xxx series), framebuffer for SM501: kernel 3.4.24 (TAR GZ archive, kernel log)

Or can someone update the netinstall kernel to use one of these? Or point my how to build a new netinstall.iso with such kernels.

Maybe I have something wrong on mkisosf options? Someone help please? TIA


THX

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@jabirulo

The Install CD kernel only works with Radeon HD up to 4000 series .
The newer ones compiled with support for other Video cards HD5000 and HD6000 but no one has reported getting them to work. I have not tried to boot with the onboard SM501 after removing my HD6670 but I will.


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@Spectre660

So maybe is due to HD6750?
If I understand if I want to make a FIRST install a must have plugged a HD4000series adn the update the kernel/framebufer/whatever to:

Customised Linux kernels
-Latest kernel compiled with framebuffer for both RadeonHD (4xxx, 5xxx and 6xxx series) and SM501: kernel 3.4.24 (TAR GZ archive, kernel log)
-Latest kernel compiled with DRM support for RadeonHD (4xxx, 5xxx and 6xxx series), framebuffer for SM501: kernel 3.4.24 (TAR GZ archive, kernel log)

Or can someone update the netinstall kernel to use one of these? Or point my how to build a new netinstall.iso with such kernels.

THX

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Re: Installing SAM460 linux-debian (trying)
Posted on 26-Jan-2013 19:13:04
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@Spectre660

So none of those kernels (uImage3424fb|drm) are working?


Trying to build my own NETINSTALL.ISO with mkisofs (os4depot) I create a netinstall_ISO drawer with such content:
#dir all
boot (dir)
boot.catalog ub2lb
install (dir)
canyonlands.dtb System.map uImage334fb uImage334fb.config
uImage3424fb uImage3424fb.config uRamdiskSqueeze
boot.catalog menu.lst menu.lstORIG ub2lb
#

menu.lst edited to point to "new" uImage3424fb file/kernel.

MKISOSF:
#mkisofs -V "K3b data project" -o ram:NetInstall.iso -b ub2lb -c boot.catalog -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -J netinstall_ISO

Burn CD with AmiDVD, reboot system, but when it tries/loads CD just show some crashlog and reset machine.

TIA

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@jabirulo

Just tried to boot using the 33424fb kernel and the onboard video after removing the Radeon HD6670. No luck. Only works with a 4000 series card.

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Re: Installing SAM460 linux-debian (trying)
Posted on 26-Jan-2013 20:11:05
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@jabirulo

Funny this is. You say that at a certain point you can not select your language because the keyboard does not respont. I have the same problem in my X1000. Not only with Debian, but with Ubuntu too.

But somehow I managed to install Ubuntu, but at the end of the proces I can not boot and the hdd is corrupt.

I have no clue whatsoever...

X1000, OS4.1.6, Sapphire4650, 2 GB ram.


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Re: Installing SAM460 linux-debian (trying)
Posted on 26-Jan-2013 20:22:38
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@Johan

The Sam460ex Install CD that he is using displays the prompts via a serial cable link and a Term program running on a second computer. The responses are entered using the Keyboard of the second computer not the Sam460ex keyboard so this may be his problems here. However with his video card he will not get any graphical display from the Sam460ex on reboot even if the whole install goes ok.

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@jabirulo

Funny this is. You say that at a certain point you can not select your language because the keyboard does not respont. I have the same problem in my X1000. Not only with Debian, but with Ubuntu too.

But somehow I managed to install Ubuntu, but at the end of the proces I can not boot and the hdd is corrupt.

I have no clue whatsoever...

X1000, OS4.1.6, Sapphire4650, 2 GB ram.


johan

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Posted on 26-Jan-2013 22:27:48
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@Johan

Not sure where you are going wrong? The latest A1-X1000 Linux kernel supports 4xxx, 5xxx & 6xxx RadeonHD cards and multiple distributions. Perhaps there is something "special" about your setup?

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@Spectre660

thx for keeping me upto date on the sm onboard (I thought it was an sm502 not 501) kernal.

I hope It will get to working stage soon so I can have a go!

has anyone tried MOL and OSX (or 9 or 8 or 7) on their Sam/460 yet?(or for that matter, x1000) im salivating here at the possibilities!

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Posted on 26-Jan-2013 23:41:07
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@TrevorDick

Well, my setup is a SAM460, so I think X1000 linux distros won't work, or do they? Where can I try/dl them?

The building of netinstall.iso is solved:
Using AmiDVD and enabling U-Boot and AmigaOS4 as Bootable, and before burning CD change/rename L:ub2lb as L:slb_v2, so AmiDVD uses ub2lb (renamed) as boot file.

Tried with uImage3424fb, but only get a cursor blinking in SM502 VGA output, will check serial output ASAP.

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@jabirulo

No unfotunately the kernel built for the A1-X1000 will not work on the Sam460.

However, Daz built the kernel and incorporated the RadeonHD driver code, so I presume this could be added to the Sam kernel build as well?

TrevorD

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Posted on 27-Jan-2013 0:14:31
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@Barana

My typo . It should indeed be SM502.
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@Spectre660

thx for keeping me upto date on the sm onboard (I thought it was an sm502 not 501) kernal.

I hope It will get to working stage soon so I can have a go!

has anyone tried MOL and OSX (or 9 or 8 or 7) on their Sam/460 yet?(or for that matter, x1000) im salivating here at the possibilities!

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@jabirulo & Barana

You could try this kernel from Acube with the onboard graphics.
It did give me some display on starting .

http://www.acube-systems.biz/download/uImage-460.zip

Last edited by Spectre660 on 27-Jan-2013 at 12:19 AM.

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Posted on 27-Jan-2013 11:07:33
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@Johan

Solved here the non working keyboard on serial.
Tried/loaded a miniXP with Putty terminal program and serial/PC keyboard works.
So its problem here with my ubuntu and minicom not sending keypresses (will check minicom config).

Let's try if I can install linux on SAM460 now

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@jabirulo

I am going to try a fresh install.

First the base system using the newest kernel.
Then the newest kernel and modules and menu.lst from a cd.
Then try the X stuff.

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Posted on 27-Jan-2013 17:26:03
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@jabirulo

There is now way for me to build a working kernel for the Sam460ex able to activate RadeonHD 6xxxx series cards. I was able to obtain this final negative result with the support of another user only two days ago.

The problem is that Linux requires a KMS enabled kernel for these cards but the Sam460ex always end up with a kernel panic when I try to boot a kernel with KMS.
With the RadeonHD 4xxx series a DRM support or a simple FB support is enough to make Linux working. I don't have any feedback on the RadeonHD 5xxx series.

I will update as soon I'll be back home my Linux Squeeze for Sam460ex web page explaining that RadeonHD 6xxx will not able to use Linux using my kernels.

Help on building a working KMS kernel for the Sam460ex is therefore strongly appreciated!
For example it could help if someone could provide the kernel configuration file used for the working X1000 Linux kernel. Hopefully this could explain what I'm doing wrong.

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@virgolamobile

well ok, so will try ono more time to install debian under SAM460, and see if it can use SM502 vga.

Maybe this page helps:
http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo#radeon-KMS_issues
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2010/03/msg00025.html

If I can help building/tryin kernels with radeon HD6000series.
Have PC wit linux ubuntu, so maybe I can crosscompile kernels (if someone teach/show me what files/archives do I need)

TIA

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@jabirulo

I know these pages, but I could not get any help out of it.
I'm loading the additional ATI firmware as explained and I haven't built any support for the frame-buffer console. Have a look at the kernel log I'm obtaining: the problem seems to be related to the microcode to control the RadeonHD.

About using the internal SM502 for displaying Linux, I couldn't get it working, so far I've been able to use it only for the text console.
Do please let me know if your attempt will be successful.

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@virgolamobile

well erm nothing loads/happens here. After a new instllation proceure and following http://www.locati.it/mario/sam460/squeeze/ steps (phase 4 included),
it stays after loading uImage334fb kernel, saying loading OK adn K, but stays there forever, nothing on HD6570 output, nothing on SM502 vga output, nothing on serial.

I dont have ub2lb on HDD, still using slb_v2 with [sda1]/boot/a1boot.conf

a1boot.conf:
kernerl_334fb /boot/uImage334fb root=/dev/sda1 console=tty0

must I add anything more in a1boot.conf?

my LNX partition is sda1 and SWAP is sda2

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