Hi all,

I have taken out my CD drive, still have a DVD drive, I also took out my floppy drive and NETPCI card replaced my Radeon 7000 (AGP) with my Radeon 9250 (PCI) I now no longer seem to be able to boot from my DVD drive or my HD.

I may have my IDE cables in incorrectly and also may need to amend some UBoot setting.

Someone please help, I need my A1 (OS4.0) machine.

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@1Mouse
Are they on A1ide connectors? or a PCI SIIxxxx card?

Does uboot recognize/see such drives?

If they are on the internal A1ide, check master/slave on HDD and DVD jumpers. And uboot boot settings.

@1Mouse

There was no question there. Could you at least list your current settings and talk us through your current cabling?

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@olegil

In UBoot I have the settings: Boot Device 1 IDE CDRom, Boot Device 2 IDE Disk and Boot Device 3 Floppy.

I have an IDE lead running from the Primary IDE on the motherboard to the HD and another IDE leading from the secondary IDE on mother board to the CD Rom running to the slave.

No sure what the jumpers should be set as and not sure if the boot settings are correct.

Could someone lead me in the right direction, are IDE leads correct and are my boot settings correct and if so what else am I missing?

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@1Mouse

First up I'd try going into UBoot menu and reset to factory settings. Then since you have a PCI VGA card now you will need to locate the menu for VGA and set it to PCI.

Now for IDE are you using both busses? If you were not then you'd need to disable one so UBoot doesn't scan nothing for a minute.

Once you have that sorted and am happy with your drive arrangement go into Media Toolbox, from OS4 CD if you have too, and it will detect a change in the layout. Save it! Then reboot.

@Hypex

Can I connect both the CD and HD to the primary IDE on the motherboard using just the one IDE cable?

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@1Mouse

Yes you can. Are your cables thick and old (40 wire) or thin and modern (80 wire)? From the a1ide_dev.doc:

III - Art of adequate IDE cabling
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- Only use 80 wire cables with 40 pin connectors (UDMA).

- Put them the proper way around : the mobo HAS to be on the end of the
  longest segment with the MASTER at the OTHER END of the cable, and
  the slave in the middle, if any.

  For 40 wire cables (non UDMA), the layout is :

     MOBO ======= MASTER === wire 28 cut === SLAVE

  For 80 wire cables (UDMA), the layout is :

     MOBO ===+=== MASTER
             |
          wire 56 cut
             |
             v
           SLAVE

- JUMP your drives explicitly as MASTER or SLAVE : no cable select.
Last edited by Hypex on 16-Feb-2013 at 03:30 PM.

@Hypex

As far as cabling goes I have one of each type of cable but over time I have changed drives, moved cables and changed graphics card and changed UBoot so it is a right mess

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@Hypex

And there I almost thought you would pull it off before you go and flatly contradict yourself.

The master goes at the END of the cable, like in the text, not at the middle as in the example.

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

Think I'll try a new IDE cable for the CDRom, as the HD is recognised, with just one connector at each end, no master/slave to worry about.

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@1Mouse

I think I tended to use cable select in the past few years but now all my drives are SATA.

@Rob

Are there any Sata cards that work on the A1?

Sata seems more reliable the IDE

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@1Mouse

Yes look on the sys:kickstart drawer there are a few drivers, just because AmigaOS can use driver does not automatically mean that your BIOS has support for cards.

Uboot has support for most of this cards.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Just looking at http://www.intuitionbase.com/comphard.php?category=7&letter=&page=1 for compatible cards.

Be nice to be able to get one today so I'm not sat waiting for the post.

@all

Are there compatible cards available that anyone has bought at places like PC World or Maplins?

Just checked IntuitionBase again and noticed the cards that work have SIL3112, SIL3114 or SIL0680, would any card with one of these chipsets work?

Last edited by 1Mouse on 16-Feb-2013 at 12:21 PM.

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@olegil

Ah damn it I forgot about that HTML formatting messing up the text! I didn't contradict myself the HTML parser did when it corrupted the text. I just did a C&P.

Okay modified it slightly.

Quote:

The master goes at the END of the cable, like in the text, not at the middle as in the example.

For 80 wire you mean? For 40 the example has a master in the middle.

@Hypex

Yes.

For low speed it doesn't really matter. For high speed (where you would need 80 wire cables) it matters a great deal. There it's important to have master/single at the end, for termination.

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This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@1Mouse

IDE is fine when it is set up correctly and your hardware including cables is in good order.

If you only have a HD and CD on seperate cables they should be set to master.

You've gotta watch SATA also if you wiah to repalce your drices. You can only boot off specific chipsets and IIRC only two devices are supported.

So no change? What's it doing now?

@Hypex

Still no joy so have put it to one side for now.

Will continue working on my Sam440, just thought the A1 might have a bit more speed.

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@1Mouse

All drives must be jumpered as master/slave, if both on the ide buss are the same, you won't boot. Each buss can have 1 master & 1 slave. Speed wise, its a bad idea to mix drive types on one buss. I would verify how your drives are jumpered.

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@1Mouse

And dont forget to open hdtoolbox to save the new
situation to the boot-drive.

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