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Morphix 
AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 13:49:33
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Hello folks!

As you may have understood the last weeks I am playing a lot with my trusted AmigaOne XE G3.

I have had some troubles with stability but it appeared that it was the prism2.device of my wireless AmigaKit card and / or the USB Stack, going on ethernet cable and removing -commenting- some lines on the kicklayout file about the USB 2.0 support gave me a super stable system.

I had even memtester running for four days (!) doing six loops on an AmigaShell all went ok!

I have also changed the battery to the little lady putting a new one. She boots ok. Keeps time ok, everything good.

On a testing mode I would open Wookiechat, play a video movie through MPlayer, open OWB, and tream a radio station on TuneNet -yes ok I have the sound muted-, Everything runs super stable no crashes, I even managed to run WipeOut 2097 on a window together with other programs. All good!

There is just one last small thing that I wanted to know and ask you about :

There is a specific time point form which the computer goes to sleep mode, you know when the screen turns off, I do not know if this is a feature of AmigaOS 4.1 or of the monitor itself (it is an LG), I have the BoingBall -or any other- Screen saver coming on front before this blank monitor feature goes on, but it usually happens if I do not touch the Amiga lets say for 25 min. or half an hour.

So if I notice this black screen / sleep mode I would move the usb mouse -on a hub- or press a key on the PS2 keyboard and the WB screen is back with all the programs running!

However I sometimes notice that if I leave the AmigaOne not touched for a long time (for example when going to sleep) I may return back after a couple of hours the screen would be black but the system is actually frozen, the usb mouse would not bring the WB back same goes for the keyboard, The screen would remain black. All I got to to do is reset the system -form the reset button on the tower, I mean that I am not closing off the PSU or turning the Power button off, a simple reset is enough to bring the lady back to life-.

Is it something that I should worry about?

Is there actually a sleep mode on AmigaOS 4.1 that I may be able to turn on and off?

Does this little issue sound familiar to you?


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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 13:54:15
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@Morphix

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Is it something that I should worry about?


Nope.

However, you could disable screen blanker and see if you can still recreate that system freeze.

It's not unique to our Eyetech Amigaone series either.

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if I leave the AmigaOne not touched for a long time (for example when going to sleep)


You mean just booting your AmigaOne and going to sleep? Big difference depending on whether you have applications running or not. If we know what you have running, maybe we can advise.

@Spectre660

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For me the most freezes have been caused during Screenblanker activity or with dockies running from Amidock.
By not running screenblanker and not having any dockies runing in Amidock things are quite stable for me.


I gather that's from use on your SAM?

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 14:46:55
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@number6

I have also had a few times when the monitor was the culprit. It would not wake up.
DIsconnecting the power from the Monitor and reconnecting it showed that OS4.1 was active and the Sam had not frozen at all .

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@Morphix

Quote:
Is it something that I should worry about?


Nope.

However, you could disable screen blanker and see if you can still recreate that system freeze.

It's not unique to our Eyetech Amigaone series either.

@Spectre660

Quote:
For me the most freezes have been caused during Screenblanker activity or with dockies running from Amidock.
By not running screenblanker and not having any dockies runing in Amidock things are quite stable for me.


I gather that's from use on your SAM?

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 14:49:45
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@Spectre660

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I have also had a few times when the monitor was the culprit. It would not wake up.DIsconnecting the power from the Monitor and reconnecting it showed that OS4.1 was active and the Sam had not frozen at all .


Interesting. I've certainly had to power down modem before, but never thought of monitor. Are we talking LCD only here?

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 15:04:14
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@Spectre660

Having missed several months of troubleshooting, I also want to ask you if it's still policy to disable EHCI?

I still see such advice from December, 2012 indicating commenting OUT the following in Kickstart:

Quote:
MODULE Kickstart/ehci.usbhcd


Still applicable for an Eyetech Amigaone user like morphix?

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:35:54
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@Morphix

Take a look at ScreenBlanker Prefs, Timing tab. You can play with those settings or turn them off to help track down any issues.

Personally, I just turn that feature off by disabling it in WBStartup Prefs. It was a nice feature to stop burnin on crt monitors, but just eye candy on a tft.

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:42:02
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@sundown

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Personally, I just turn that feature off by disabling it in WBStartup Prefs. It was a nice feature to stop burnin on crt monitors, but just eye candy on a tft.


Apparently there is some disagreement on that.

I'd read the whole convo

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:42:22
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@number6

ohci.usbhcd = usb1
ehci.usbhcd = usb2

If you don't have the h/w to run usb2, then not much point in loading that driver. I don't know if it causes any issues for sure, but can't hurt commenting it out if not needed. I believe I did on the Micro.

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:46:52
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You mean just booting your AmigaOne and going to sleep? Big difference depending on whether you have applications running or not. If we know what you have running, maybe we can advise.


No I just mean this:

If I have the AmigaOne running apps etc and the screen goes black and lets say that 25 20 or 25 minutes or even an hour and then I move the mouse or anything it would return back on WB.

If I have the AmigaOne running apps etc and I leave the room letting get into the black screen without doing anything -as long a\s I am not in the room-, returning back on -for example- my waking up -the next day-, I would realize no response and a frozen system. In simple words sometimes when the black screen thing last for a while it would result with a frozen miggy.

This symptom appears NOT all of the time but very often. During the memtester for example the machine would be 4 days long but I have noticed that as long memtester was running screen blanker was not getting active.

Thanks for the tips to you all. I will try to start by disabling screen blanker, would also try to disconnect and reconnect the monitor to power to notice if this is the actual case.

Keep on positng guys! Thanks!

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:48:22
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Quote:
Having missed several months of troubleshooting, I also want to ask you if it's still policy to disable EHCI? I still see such advice from December, 2012 indicating commenting OUT the following in Kickstart:


Quote:
MODULE Kickstart/ehci.usbhcd


Have done this as I mention on my first post!

Last edited by Morphix on 14-Mar-2013 at 05:48 PM.

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 17:49:56
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@Morphix

Understood.

Then another idea I'll throw at you is a memory leak, depending on applications running.

If anyone disagrees with that possibility, just say so. heh.

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Re: AmigaOne Sleep mode (?)
Posted on 14-Mar-2013 18:21:38
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@number6

Perhaps, I am doing some more testing with Screen Blanker disabled.

However the symptom has been tracked down even with just Wookiechat online,

To me it is a random symptom and it should be generated due to screenBlanker.

lets see.

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