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PhantomInterrogative
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If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 1:51:00
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| Get a graphics card that has a bus width of 256 bits.
I just upgraded cards from a X1600 Pro (128 bit width @12.48GB/s) to a 4850 (256 bit width @63.55 GB/s). I am amazed at the speed increase. I can actually watch short Youtube videos at an OK speed with Timberwolf.
The best part is that I paid $20 USD for the 4850!
_________________ I sold my SAM460ex lite... waiting for money to buy a Raspberry Pi... or a Classic A1000 with Buffee... or an A1222... and OS4.3 FE update 11 |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 8:45:13
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i agree with you, but it's better to choice a 5xxx or 6xxx, you'll get a Warp3D driver in near future ! _________________ Sam 460EX, 2Gb Ram, Radeon R7 250, AmigaOS4.1 FE A4000 PPC604@233, Mediator A1200 PPC603@160, Mediator uA1 G3@800, 512 Mb [sold] |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 9:04:43
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Warp3D is interesting for gamers. The rest might be interested in faster "system". _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 9:51:11
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Being compatible with Warp3D doesn't mean slower.We're talking a newer family after all. _________________ Cuida tus piedras gordas.
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 13:16:54
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A HD6670 with gddr5 memory is faster for 2D and about as fast for 3D and will work with Warp3D for Radeon HD
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Warp3D is interesting for gamers. The rest might be interested in faster "system". |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 19-Mar-2013 23:29:03
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| @Spectre660 et al,
Yes, a 5xxx, 6xxx, or 7xxx will be faster than the 4850... but I got it for $20! _________________ I sold my SAM460ex lite... waiting for money to buy a Raspberry Pi... or a Classic A1000 with Buffee... or an A1222... and OS4.3 FE update 11 |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 0:04:26
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Indeed that is a very good price . I must confess that I got a second HD 4850 myself last year for US$40.00.  The HD 6670 came in at US$65.00
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PhantomInterrogative wrote: @Spectre660 et al,
Yes, a 5xxx, 6xxx, or 7xxx will be faster than the 4850... but I got it for $20! | _________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 5:50:14
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| Another good way to increase the speed of a SAM 460ex is a bit more convoluted but it is well worth it. And if done right it shouldn't cost anything other than time.
You take the SAM 460ex based system with Amiga OS 4.1.x, or even just the SAM 460ex board with AmigaOS 4.1.x and you put that system on ebay or Amibay.
Then you take the money from the sale and buy a 2013 middle of the range x86 based PC. Instal one of the free Linux or BSD distributions and then load up Firefox (it's like Timberwolf but for other platforms), and then load up a YouTube video. Not just a short one either, you can play long videos and high definition videos, full screen as well.
Then you can spend countless hours setting the icons, gadgets, and widgets just like in AmigaOS, only much faster.
On the plus side, you can download a whole bunch of cool and freely available applications. Just in case you ever want to actually be productive.
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 6:26:57
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Well people are talking GPU and Amiga OS, then you start to advertaising Linux/x86? Have you noticed that this is Amigaworld.net, place where people has hobby, Amiga range computers and OS?
What kind of pleasure you get spoiling other people joy? You weren't loved when you was a kid? Because you like to spoil ohther people joy, now when you are a adult? Or maybe you are poor? You need to choose cheap x86 and you are jelous for those who have powerfull x86 computer and also hobby machine?
Could you do that somewere else? I'm curious, what kind of Amiga hobby you have? Last edited by utri007 on 20-Mar-2013 at 06:29 AM.
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 8:49:20
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 13:39:19
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Not so sure what ass clowns like to eat but you might want to avoid letting them drink too. :)
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 14:13:55
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| This thread is nonsense as you can't increase the speed in sams(there's no upgradable processor). Is misleading and could confuse people out.
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 14:54:44
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If you equate the GPU on the video card to a coprocessor then you can. An quite a bit too.
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_ThEcRoW wrote: This thread is nonsense as you can't increase the speed in sams(there's no upgradable processor). Is misleading and could confuse people out.
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 15:09:02
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Well, but in my Mac Pro (at work) I changed the graphics card, changed the HDs to SSDs and added mor RAM.
My Mac Pro is now much faster than before, even if I did not upgrade the processor... _________________ Sometimes we give people a lot of credit just because they're writing nice sentences even if it isn't adding up to much. |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 15:12:36
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 15:33:10
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| This thread is nonsense as you can't increase the speed in sams(there's no upgradable processor). Is misleading and could confuse people out |
if there is a way to tune up a machine, be it with another gfx card, why shouldnt it be communicated? whats misleading about it, provided it actually works? and if people do not try, others will not know.. |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 15:50:31
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There are loads of ways to increase the speed of a computer - the CPU is just one of them.
Ask anyone who's put a RAM expansion in an A1200.... |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 17:41:37
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| Then you take the money from the sale and buy a 2013 middle of the range x86 based PC. Instal one of the free Linux or BSD distributions and then load up Firefox (it's like Timberwolf but for other platforms), and then load up a YouTube video. Not just a short one either, you can play long videos and high definition videos, full screen as well. Then you can spend countless hours setting the icons, gadgets, and widgets just like in AmigaOS, only much faster. On the plus side, you can download a whole bunch of cool and freely available applications. Just in case you ever want to actually be productive. |
Why when you can install Debian alongside AmigaOS 4 and not go all that hustle? Some of the Linux apps are avail in OS4  _________________ OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way! SinclairQL and WII U lover :D YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 19:18:12
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Well done for suggesting such a novel idea. I've never hears of such a solution suggested here and I don't think many here would have ever have thought that an x86 system and mainstream OS could provide more power than we're used to from our AmigaOS systems.
Thank you for sharing such insight here. I'm sure that many people will be massively grateful to you for a long time to come. |
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Re: If ever you want to increase a SAM460ex's speed Posted on 20-Mar-2013 21:03:31
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Perhaps I should have titled the thread "How to increase the perceptible speed of a SAM460ex," or "Increasing the sensible speed of the SAM460ex," or even "My SAM is the same speed, but feels much faster after..."?
I give my apologies for lack of thread clarity.
My next thread will be showing how to use the PCI slot of the SAM460ex whilst using a 2-slot graphics card such as the 4850. How should I title it? _________________ I sold my SAM460ex lite... waiting for money to buy a Raspberry Pi... or a Classic A1000 with Buffee... or an A1222... and OS4.3 FE update 11 |
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