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sicky 
Which graphic tablet?
Posted on 19-Mar-2013 17:56:14
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Does anyone have a list of graphics tablets that work well with SketchBlock/Amiga OS4.1.6?

It will soon be my birthday and I am considering buying myself a graphic tablet to use with this excellent program on my SAM460

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Rob 
Re: Which graphic tablet?
Posted on 19-Mar-2013 18:24:17
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@sicky

Mine is a Trust 16447.

It appears to have been discontinued but Novatech have them in stock. They are probably available elsewhere too.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/peripherals/graphicstablets/16447.html

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@sicky

IIRC there is a supported devices list in the readme of sketchblock..... (EDIT, i checked... wasn't there...)

if not.. i know know i have seen such a thing somewhere before so it can't be tgar far away :D

i guess it must have been on this forum somewhere then :I

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mlehto 
Re: Which graphic tablet?
Posted on 19-Mar-2013 19:12:48
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@sicky

Here is some, they are with other usb devices...

http://www.intuitionbase.com/comphard.php?category=6

os4depot driver/input is drivers and readmes.

AFAIK wacon has best pens, because they have not battery. I had trust, and battery is top of pen, so its weight balance is bit weird.

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@Toaks

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/input/uclogictablet.lha

or

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/input/wacomtablet.lha

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@mlehto

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AFAIK wacon has best pens, because they have not battery. I had trust, and battery is top of pen, so its weight balance is bit weird.


Do they not? I find that hard to believe. How would they detect button presses and pressure? Probably just a better design of the pen.



My LaPazz UCLogic Pen does have a battery, but is very smal and has lasted since I bought, amazing batery life actyally!

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@broadblues

I have a wacom graphire4. It has no battery inside the pen. I dont know how button presses are detected, good question.

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@Wanderer

interesting, maybe they use induction or something

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unimon 
Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@sicky

I would say, it depends what you want to do. I mean, in the graphic tablet's world, you can have several size of usable surface. I have a Trust TB-5300 which is a A5 format (swiss size) and I also have a Wacom with a size of A4.

I began with the Trust but I will go on with the Wacom because it is more comfortable to draw (but you need also place on your desk ).

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@unimon

For my purposes (simply drawing), A5 size is more than enough. You must keep in mind that you can zoom in/out in the application what you cannot do on real paper. So normally the hand doesnt really move accross the tablet, you would rather scroll/zoom in the image view.
If you draw on paper, you usually focus on a small area as well. Just the whole image might be larger.

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mlehto 
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@broadblues

They use electro magnetit resonance :)

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Rob 
Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@unimon

I was doing a bit of photo editing and text work the other day and had the tablet on my lap.

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@broadblues

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interesting, maybe they use induction or something



Wacom tablets use a (expired) patented electromagnetic resonance technology.[33] Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant inductive coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacom

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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@broadblues

Quote:
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/input/uclogictablet.lha

or

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/input/wacomtablet.lha

Hi Andy,

I've just dug out my waycom tablet.
I bought it ages ago to try on OS4, actually after trying out Simon's (Rigo) touchscreen driver, so that's quite a while back.
It is a "Wacom Graphire Classic XL A5" it seems to work fine with Sketchblock straight out of the box. Presumably using the mouse driver?

Do I need to install the wacomtablet.lha that you link to?
Not being an artist, would it give me anything better than out of the box?

I am likely to plug my tablet in as & when I need it rather than connected all the time. So does it replace the usb mouse driver, and should I install it, just for occasional use?

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@Swoop

The tablet i working only correctly as a tablet if it lets you position the mouse at absolute coordinates, not relative like the mouse. Most tablets can work as a mouse, but this is not what you need if you want to draw.

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Re: Which graphic tablet?
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...and the wacomablet driver supports a pressure and some fkeys

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@Wanderer & mr2

OK, so greater drawing control, etc.

I'll give it a try.

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abalaban 
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Posted on 20-Mar-2013 8:56:11
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@Swoop

Mr2 and Wandered are right: without a dedicated driver Wacom tablets (and probably all other) present themselves as a standard HID device, as a consequence they can perform just like a mouse... But in this restricted mode you won't have access to the specificity of the tablet (absolute positioning, pressure control, additional buttons etc.)

@sicky

Sketchblock uses the standard AmigaOS Tablet event so any tablet with a driver sending those events is supported by Sketchblock.
At the moment the only two tablet drivers for AmigaOS 4 are the UCLogic one by Andy and the Wacom one by me (both are USB tablet drivers only).

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afxgroup 
Re: Which graphic tablet?
Posted on 20-Mar-2013 11:58:49
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@All

here you can find some compatible tablets

https://acube-systemsbiz.serversicuro.it/shop/en/20-sketch-tablet

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@afxgroup

Which of the two drivers support the trust tablets? Do they offer pressure and f key support etc?

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