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im quite shattered at hans-joerg frieden's bad
Posted on 28-Mar-2013 12:53:27
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conduct, it has really left a bad taste in my mouth, and right now, I really understand why the likes or morph and aros users can feel abused by some users in the amigaworld.
this transcript underneath is how I was attacked personally by thom on my own personal facebook.

GOD'S DESIGN FOR MARRIAGE MATHEW 5:19
TYPE "YES", "SHARE" & CLICK "LIKE" IF YOU AGREE WITH GOD!

Join 2 Million People Who Love JESUS --> My Bible

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Re: im quite shattered at thomas frieden's bad
Posted on 28-Mar-2013 12:56:28
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behaviour, I can honestly understand the case disgruntled morph and aros users have against the os4 community.Its honestly shocking me to be treated like this by a man I look up to.
You like this.
Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Who's the guy in the dress ?
14 hours ago · Like
barana haha
14 hours ago · Like
James Carroll lol
6 hours ago · Like
James Carroll why did god make 57 species of homosexual animals
5 hours ago · Like
James Carroll Blair says animals dont go to heaven, because they're not very good. And this is distressing me because I want to pet me kitty in heaven.
5 hours ago · Unlike · 1
Barana he didnt. let me introduce you to two separate realities on this fallen planet. Corruption and homosexual Propaganda.
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Hans-Jörg Frieden · 5 mutual friends
Homosexual Propaganda? This looks like homophobic propaganda to me.
2 hours ago · Like
Hans-Jörg Frieden · 5 mutual friends
Can I ask, what part of the bible actually prohibits gay marriage? Is that the same part that allows me to sell my daughter into slavery?
2 hours ago · Like
Barana hans: google it
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Barana nope, homosexual propaganda, think about it logically, why would a homophobic create pro homeosexual propaganda, now hans...
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Well, unless the dress wearing thing is really a guy, this looks a lot like the usual "Only men and women are what god intended to marry" to me... which basically boils down to the same amount of crap that the usual "God hates fags" sign bearers portray in the streets.
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Barana your an intelegent man, please tell me why you equate the 'god hates fags' protesters that i personally have only seen on tv from america with the god of the universe that loves all of his creation personally wether they be straight, homos, lesos, purple black white poor rich murderesrs rapists child molsters etc etc ?
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Well, maybe I'm not that smart, but this picture is depicting a man and a woman, and it says "Gods design for marriage" ? Right ? So it implies that only a man and a woman are allowed to marry in the face of god ? Right ? Just to make sure I'm getting things straight here. Soooo, if that picture says "only men and women are allowed to marry in the face of god", then how the heck can it be homosexual propaganda ? How does it not actually tell you that gay couples shouldn't be allowed to marry ? I don't get it
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Because quite frankly, how you can see, in tis picture, anything that says "god loves all of his creations" is beyond me
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Barana the homosexual propaganda i was refering to was james' comment about 57 homo animal species.
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Alright, but the question still stands, then, why DID God create 57 homosexual animals ?
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Barana when he created them abt 6k years ago they werent homosexual at all, obviously as their line would have given way to more viviparous species. the corruption has happened over time. god made creation good. not corrupted, the corruption happened after satan became ruler of this earth
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Barana every loving parent gives loving boundaries that lead to healthy bountiful way of life.No parent says to the kid go play in the traffic, and expects the kid to live for long
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Oh, so you are a believer in the intelligent design stuff ? Which probably means you do not believe in science since radiocarbon dating clearly shows that there a even human remains that are older than 6k years, not to mention other remains that can be dated back to 450 million years...
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Hans-Jörg Frieden · 5 mutual friends
ROFL. "Google It". If you don't want to answer a question because you don't have the answer, you say "Google it" as if that was the ultimate kill-all reply to all questions. Very smooth. You didn't answer my question, why does God hate homosexuals?

And by "homophobic propaganda" I mean the picture.

And speaking of "google it", try to google "radiocarbon dating". And no, that's no homosexual dating site
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Barana the calculations it is based on are from an old world view. radiocarbon dating has been positively proven to be a sham, i spose you will revile me for that truth also ?
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Old world view ? You mean, when the year was still 365 days ?

Oh, I will not revile you for anything. I'm currently still assuming you're pulling my leg here
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Barana i didnt take the extended time to explain to you as this medium is horribly ill equipped to take the extended time to explain to someone who will quite likely argue is circles.
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Barana you didnt ask if god hated homosexuals, u asked why the bible prohibits homosexual marriage, so which is it if im to answer the question please decide what it is first. i will answer both if you wish
about an hour ago · Like
Barana old world view - millions of years
about an hour ago · Like
Barana nope, quite serious.
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Thomas Frieden · 7 mutual friends
Uhkay, don't let me disturb you any longer as I tiptoe to the exit then and go get drunk with that lesbian girl I know
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Barana him. But here, in this life, I treat everyone with the same respect that they deserve.
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Hans-Jörg Frieden · 5 mutual friends
Leviticus 19:28 by the way
39 minutes ago · Like
Barana you have falsely accused and disrespected me here. I dont really belive what you say, mate.
39 minutes ago · Like
Hans-Jörg Frieden · 5 mutual friends
The 'falsely' stands to reason, and I didn't accuse you of anything unproven. You, on the other hand, have not delivered a single proof for your claims. I am still waiting.
38 minutes ago · Like
Barana mate i have talked to you at length on the accusations you make, want answers, they are available to all, google em yourself. I didnt realise you were this unreasonably agressive, look at your words you have accused me of many things out of the blue, that have nothing to do with me, you got problems with a guy tatooing himself against god's way? take it up with him, not me. beyond this I find it necessary to moderate you, as you seem to attack me maliciously.gnight.
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Re: im quite shattered at thomas frieden's bad
Posted on 28-Mar-2013 14:11:25
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@Barana

This is a forum for computing, not discussions regarding religion or politics or similar incendiary subjects. (Yeah, yeah, C=USA, but, work with me here, ok?)

I can refer you to the TOS which will explain this further, but I think you're clever enough to understand the above isn't correct or proper. May I suggest starting a website and linking people to it if you'd like to discuss such subjects in future?

Thank you for removing the above, please.

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Posted on 28-Mar-2013 14:22:36
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@Yo


I don't think his point had anything to do with the religious content of his quote. Rather the fact that he felt attacked over a post he believed in on facebook and The responses he got From the Freidens. That being said if both sides of the argument would just STFU and live their lives we could put this subject behind us. :)

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@terminills

Thank you, Terminills, but honestly, trying to win a fight on the internet is rather like.... well, you know the rest. Then complaining about the fight is...

And anyway, that argy-bargy was on Facebook, not here. It's as about as relevant to this site as discussing something someone found on Moo.

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@Yo

I don't disagree with that. I also think that it's hard for anyone to make a honest judgement without seeing the original site. What we have here is a cut and paste and possible edit of an argument(not saying that's what happened). But I see his point as I see their point.

Out of the whole thing personally the only thing I could possibly take offense to is someone claiming to be agnostic and yet not be willing to see both sides of the argument. :P


however I do agree this is just asking for a flame war. >.<

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@Barana

Never actually spoken to this Frieden guy or know much about him but I fail to see how you can be upset in any way about the nonsense both of you appear to have been gibbering to each other on FaceBook...

C'mon... if as you claim in your own words in that "transcript" believe that the Human Race was magically created by a fictional being called "God" just 6 thousand years ago then you can't really complain if someone takes the mickey out of you when you post such nonsense in public...

Handy Tip: If your going to post religious fables and fiction on public forums where people can respond to them , then remember you may not see replies that you want or that fit into your beliefs, so there's no point in whinging about it let alone on a computer forum....

PS: Pretty sure BigD will be along any second to defend you on this but from his last GAY/ RELIGIOUS thread I'd say that 's probably not a good thing on your part having BigD on your side...

PPS: Main thing though... whatever yours, mine or anyones beliefs or opinions are on these subjects... does it really, I mean really matter what someone you have never met personally on the internet nor is actually part of your real life or social circles says...

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@Franko

Why can I see this turning into another version of the gay marriage thread....

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Reckon it's a plot by BigD to give him a reason to post again, he's been awfully conspicuous by his absence since they shut down that thread...

Wonder if they'll cull this one at birth or let it live and see if it can become one of the most viewed threads as the other one was...

Aint much else to talk about in Amigaland so why not resort to those old chestnuts of Gay Marriage & Religion.... not exactly rocket science (or any kind of science) but they are good for a laugh and "viewing figures"...

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Wonderful read. Respect for Thomas. Pity for you.

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Posted on 28-Mar-2013 15:37:44
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the channel does say free for all. and terminills hit the nail on the head, no discussion about religion or politics from me, just a transcript - venting.

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@Franko

Quote:

Franko wrote:
Aint much ales to talk about in Amigaland ....


But... but.. I posted my Supa-Sekret Brownies recipe!

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@Yo

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Yo wrote:

But... but.. I posted my Supa-Sekret Brownies recipe!


That's Devil talk that is... burning poor junior Girl Guides in a fire, blasphemy that could be called...

Hmmm... wait... wasn't it religious folk who used to burn old women in fires !!!...

Course that aint blasphemy or even evil that's just the hypocrisy of religion for ya...

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@Barana

Quote:

Barana wrote:

the channel does say free for all. and terminills hit the nail on the head, no discussion about religion or politics from me, just a transcript - venting.


Need to try that one next time I'm up in court...

"Honest your honour I wasn't saying anything slanderous or insulting I was merely quoting a transcript of my own words... "...

It's at this point the typical thing to do would be to tie that in with the old "Zazi" card but I aint gonna do that...

PS: I never wrote this post, it wasn't me honest... a big boy did it and ran away...

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mm. actually after reading of this a bit i start to respect the frieden brothers again.

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SUBTITLES ON BBC2...

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@Franko
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That's Devil talk that is... burning poor junior Girl Guides in a fire


that only happens if she leaves em in too long !

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@Barana
I don't see no gays in the Bible, but I did see this...

“When you buy a Hebrew slave, six years shall he serve; and in the seventh shall he go out free, for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters, the wife and the children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself. And if the slave shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: then his master shall bring him unto God, and he shall bring him to the door or unto the door-post, and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.”
—Exodus 21:2-6.

How many Hebrew slaves does hans-joerg frieden have?

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@persia

Never mind "how many slaves has he got"... What in the name of the wee man is that load of drivel !!!

Sounds like it was written by a dyslexic who was rat arsed on holy wine and his hidden aggressive/ controlling side was seeping out through the drink, revealing his inner hatred for people, wanting to hold them captive against their will and his murderous compulsion to stick a sharp pointy object through someones lugole...

Might not be any "gays" in the bible but there sure seems to be lot of wannabe Jack The Rippers/ Kidnappers/ Torturers/ Murderers amongst the "wise" & "faithful"...

Jeebus... and they say us atheists are evil and the spawn of the devil, us and old nik aint a patch on the bible bashers when it comes to being nasty...

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