@Fransexy

isee.. next time you will demand ubuntu on a500 because its "fun" and "cool". in the meantime how about to stuff your sam into the amiga case and have you fun with it. and now dont derail the thread.

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wawa wrote: @Fransexy isee.. next time you will demand ubuntu on a500 because its "fun" and "cool". in the meantime how about to stuff your sam into the amiga case and have you fun with it. and now dont derail the thread.

Why then try to put the A600 to the max in the first instance? majsta is trying to make something that A600 was not designed for, and he is doing it because fun, to learn and because is their dream. somebody ask if their dream is possible at least at technical level and you ask why. And i respond you and you said that i derail the thread?

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and now dont derail the thread.

If you look at majsta´s page, you will see PowerPC accellerator for A600 was one of his original ideas...

Of course, FPGA 68k CPU board makes much more sense.

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Why then try to put the A600 to the max in the first instance? majsta is trying to make something that A600 was not designed for, and he is doing it because fun, to learn and because is their dream. somebody ask if their dream is possible at least at technical level and you ask why. And i respond you and you said that i derail the thread?

because there is some achivement in particular direction. and then usually people chime in and want to have it bent to their demands. then other people want still some more and in the end the project leads to nowhere.

we have discussed 68k accelerators on many forums in many threads and the ppc option is not that wortwhile as it seems, which was backed up by knowledgeable members. fpga is an option within limits. there is another hybrid concept that seems more promissing.

what concerns igors work it would be nicer if people started to support him in what he does instead demand of him something completely different.

Yes I had the idea about various accelerators but going this way is just because I decided that creating this from coding point of view could be most complicated because creating any accelerator with some CPU connected to FPGA or something could be one year project but without army of software supporters there is not much to do. Basically you have the new hardware but no software to support it. I still don't understand why someone didn't create this or something Coldfire related because when you take some project failure is not an option. I still stands behind my words 3 years ago that Amiga is just Talk Talk community. Complete approach is wrong... If I take another project Coldfire or PPC related I will finish it even when i say that I have never seen Coldfire in my life... So don't start small project start something so complex that you don't understand and just work hard.

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@thread

I see there's an update - April 17, 2013 here:

http://www.majsta.com/

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Those are the tests from yesterday.

Smell the rubber 6.06 Mips
http://youtu.be/8JALRvUVTvk

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Nice results.

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you look at majsta´s page, you will see PowerPC accellerator for A600 was one of his original ideas...

New PPC accelerators for 68k based Amigas doesn't really make sense when there are better solutions for OS4.x or MorphOS but Amiga 600 PPC has a weird appeal because it sounds even more crazy.

@majsta

now we are talking... ;) this is almost as good as fpga arcade it seems.
details? what tacting?

@majsta

Great result... very well done. Where there is a will there is a way. I am sure if you can get these boards produced there will be support for them. Have you approached Amiga Kit yet about the possibility of getting these sold in the future...

It would be great to create an FPGA 060 accelerator for A1200, i think that would be pretty popular considering how difficult they are to come by...

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@majsta

Great work man !

@majsta

that is some seriously cool speed upgrade!.

now go and make one for the a1200 .

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@wawa I don't know about fpga arcade testings but it can't be the same because fpga arcade seems to have more features even MC68060 board to attach to system. I don't know.

@QuBe I didn't talk to any Amiga shop because I don't work that way. i just work hard and when my work and results recognized someone always contacts me. About manufacturing it could be done and it could be sold but I have no idea how many people are interested in this.

Regarding MC68060 accelerators. It is trivial to create any accelerator if you have CPU from the same series but my complete concept was to enter Amiga into new approach so he won't be dependent on any CPU. So FPGA will continue production in next 20 or more years with smallest prices possible. So there is no dependence to any manufacturer who will stop production of some CPU Amiga used back then. Also there is no way to buy new MC68060 CPU at normal prices so talking about producing such accelerator stops there.

@Toaks I don't have A1200 also I have never seen one :) I m currently working on Vampire 500 design for Amiga 500 but lets finish this project for A600 first because I believe that I could increase performance much more. I have about 80MHz left to play with. Acording to my calculations every 10Mhz I receive about 0.88Mips.

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@wawa I don't know about fpga arcade testings but it can't be the same because fpga arcade seems to have more features even MC68060 board to attach to system. I don't know.

you mean this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4_yh3Q288

yes, particularly impressive when you consider fpga arcade with yaqubes 060 board is literally stamping early ppc macs (8100) into the ground under shapeshifter emu with that apple benchmark.

there was a post about the speed of straight fpgaarcade board without extention, that means only wita a softcore, and it was somehow almost (half) the 040 speed or something. i cant find it though on that lenghty thread on aorg.

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@Toaks I don't have A1200 also I have never seen one :) I m currently working on Vampire 500 design for Amiga 500 but lets finish this project for A600 first because I believe that I could increase performance much more. I have about 80MHz left to play with. Acording to my calculations every 10Mhz I receive about 0.88Mips.

+1!

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@majsta

Nearly 68030 33 MHz performance. That is fast enough for anything on A600. With some little speed improvement, your solution will be the fastest ever created for A600!

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here a concurent fpga device i traced down on a polish forum. actually more in the line of fpgaarcade as it is a standalone solution and similar form factor.

sysinfo:
http://harbaum.org/till/mist/smell_the_rubber.jpg

further facts:
http://www.minimig.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=546&start=0

pricing estimations:
http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=96

@majsta

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the new hardware but no software to support it. I still don't understand why someone didn't create this or something Coldfire related because when you take some project failure is not an option. I still stands behind my words 3 years ago that Amiga is just Talk Talk community. Complete approach is wrong... If I take another project Coldfire or PPC related I will finish it even when i say that I have never seen Coldfire in my life... So don't start small project start something so complex that you don't understand and just work hard.

ColdFire is simply NOT completely 68k compatible.

Best I have seen was Atari fans Atari ColdFire project,
but it needed ColdFire port of OS (and apps) and ended with 68k emulator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Coldfire_Project

Thus, PowerPC with 68k emulation scores way higher.

Is true FPGA Arcade seems to be best new 68k related (FPGA) hardware
so far, but is not yet in production. And as standalone machine, has nothing to do
with accelerators for old machines.

Thanks Majsta for trying to improve accel. range for A600 as it was cute,
but somehow most left behind Amiga (A500+ could use A500 expansions)

However, I am not sure how many users are left.

I do remember such projects as "Mighty A600" to see how much could it be expanded
http://powerprograms.nl/amiga/amiga-mighty-a600/

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