Hi guys,

Please excuse me for dropping by here and asking this, but I'm just a little curious...
I'd like to ask you all, what do you think is the most appropriate hardware to be
put into the new CUSA Amiga range today if you were Commodore or an Amiga developer? If you had a really big budget and YOU were running CUSA, what would you do to bring back our beloved brands and products? What hardware/software would you put into the boxes, and how would you make it appeal to the public who has now been brought up on a diet of DOS/Windows/Mac OSX running on cheap systems and in need of something a little different?

I'm just asking this out of curiosity as an Amiga fan and consumer myself, and it's nothing at all related to CUSA as a whole ie. I don't work for them or am asking on their behalf. I am asking this as someone who is excited about computers for over 30 years (in particular Amigas :) ), is an AROS supporter and is concerned with which direction the brand itself (AMIGA) should be going....

@Middleman

Wow aint spoke to you since Amiga.org...

See your still pushing the CUSA stuff...

You still in China like you told me in the last conversation we had or has Barry moved you over to Florida to help run things from there...

Always followed your posts on A.org and CommodoreAmiga,org, thing I find curious and I hope you don't mind me asking is, why do you always make a point of saying that you don't work for CUSA or are asking things on behalf of them... seems a bit odd that...

Anywhoo nice to see you round these parts even though this is an Amiga site and the CUSA stuff you speak of are not Amiga's or Amiga related (cept in name)...

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@Middleman

For me? Well, I think they get a bit too much attention (and I'm again giving it to them as well by replying) for over-priced badge-engineering. But, to get me even remotely interested they should shoe-horn a motherboard in with the specs of that of the X1000 (or even faster), with a version of Amiga OS4 with atleast a fully functional version of Timberwolf and some sort of Open Office. Then, all this should not be prices above the tag of a dirt cheap made in China Android boxes. Only like that they could get a few bucks out of my pocket. Otherwise, I will just sit back, relax and wait for the netbook Hyperion has been mentioning.

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@Middleman

There is already AresOne, thank you. Irrelevant and off topic since a) CUSA will overcharge PC price b) will not suppor tAROS c) AROS works on many PC`s including CUSA fake Mini.

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@Franko

Great to see you mate. Yes I've been away. In fact for the last 4 months I'd taken a break from all the forums including C-A.org. Probably from all the heat exhaustion from the arguements. ;P

Anyways back onto the topic....

Vox...

I want to ask, how is it irrelevant? The Commodore brand is back and Leo the CTO has been open to ideas and suggestions.

Maybe I'm asking it wrong. Probably I should rephrase the question....what would YOU do today to revive the Commodore and Amiga brands in its current state. And I DON'T mean under CUSA. I mean if Commodore was back under another owner and not CUSA. Say YOU were that owner....what would you do to revive the brand or products, money no object? Specs/products/next gen ideas etc.

@Middleman

Ignore the village idiot.

@Middleman

I don't even want to answer because I guess everyone knows what I'll write but... A new Amiga in a Fantasy Case... another big-box Amiga. Good quality and runing AOS 4.x. Would be nice if price is good too. Pretty much a restart of the brand. I like the X1000 and SAM computers but this would be better IMO. Also a laptop would be nice but 2-3 models that are as good as the old Commodore computers in terms of look and feal with descent hardware.

@Middleman

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I want to ask, how is it irrelevant? The Commodore brand is back and Leo the CTO has been open to ideas and suggestions. Maybe I'm asking it wrong. Probably I should rephrase the question....what would YOU do today to revive the Commodore and Amiga brands in its current state. And I DON'T mean under CUSA. I mean if Commodore was back under another owner and not CUSA. Say YOU were that owner....what would you do to revive the brand or products, money no object? Specs/products/next gen ideas etc

Nice way of finding fresh hole in the universe to have CUSA related discussion again on the front page. No thanks.

Leo was open to ideas, and discarded so far all ideas by any contacted community or presented at Commodore-Amiga.org that are different from CUSA/COS rebadge and rename. Plus there is no development capacity.

But would +1 Darrins idea

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With just the Commodore name, I'd market a line of computers with pre-installed classic 8 bit and 16 bit emulators and also use my website to sell ADF images of games. With the Amiga name I'd sell a range of custom cases for classic and NG Amiga solutions. Also, I'd look at selling FPGA based Amigas in full cooperation with people like MikeJ or the NATAMI team. I'd also use my website to sell pre-loaded SD cards with HDF images and ROMs for existing "Minimig" users and various ADF images.

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@vox

a modified form of Darrins idea would be to sell customized caseworks, and package the ADFs and HDF materials for the various older C= machines in a similar way to the way SEGA has done the Megadrive games.

this includes various "online store" Applications as well.

@Middleman

Dont mention AROS in the same sentence as them, the two clearly have vastly different philosophies.

@Middleman

Didn't we do this already?

About the only thing that CUSA might do that might interest me is Amiga & C64 style USB & PS/2 keyboards. But I doubt they'd do them.

What I an definitely not interested in seeing from anyone is a PC running Ubuntu Linux with the Amiga or C64 brand names on it. This, I have no doubt, is what we'll see from CUSA.

@Middleman

The hardware is simple for high end Amiga, high speed processor and latest generation NVidia graphics, packaged up in a nicely designed case.

Software is more tricky as CUSA cannot sell the OS it needs to make this an Amiga.

Better still take the Amiga Mini case, fit a Natami in it and run Aros in it, but again you cannot sell it with an Amiga OS.

How about they solve the OS issue

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@middleman

It can be any powerful modern hardware it wants to be, but without AmigaOS it will never be a real Amiga to me and millions of others.

Therefore if C=USA want to succeed they need to fund AmigaOS development until then they can f off.

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@Middleman

It will not run AROS, no support from AROS developers, I7 is useless as AROS does not support SMP, and the CUSA PC is over prized you can get same PC for less whit out Amiga name on it.

And from my previews experience whit I7 in a small cabinet, and a nice graphic card, it will most likely overheat as soon as you run starcraft II or any thing more demanding and crash.

If your really interested in AROS buy AresOne or some other computer fully supported.

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@djrikki

What do you mean here by "AmigaOS"? Propably AOS4 for you, but you will never win users by trying to sell niche hardware (outside the hardcore scene noone is accepting to buy PPC look at the comments of users everywhere. PPC is a dead end). And then we are again at the topic porting it to another platform...

Back to topic... it need something that is recognized as "Amigian" but to combine it with f.e. Aros is forbidden because of contracts and a certain company. And that is the same for any other company. Perhaps when a big company would step in and pay for the right, but that is pure theoretic.

@OlafS25

There is only one AmigaOS. And it has reached version 4. I don't know why geeks are so confused by ascending numbers.

"PPC is a dead end"

Sure tell that to Microsoft (XBox) and Sony (PS3)

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@djrikki

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millions of others.

wow, must be amiga os is tremendously popular on some other planet.

If it run os4.x ill be interested. That would be i wouldnt have anything agains os4.x on x86

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@djrikki

and NASA

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@Middleman

you have your answer right here :
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34807&forum=44&33

since then we have never heard anything from cusa, so i think it is not an option for them. forget it.