I have reserved www.aros-platform.de and created a number of subdomains (jump to pages)

The most popular distributions of AROS (X86):
http://icaros.aros-platform.de
http://aeros.aros-platform.de
http://vision.aros-platform.de (AROS Vision)
http://broadway.aros-platform.de
http://aspireos.aros-platform.de

http://wiki.aros-platform.de
http://shop.aros-platform.de (ares shop)
http://forum.aros-platform.de (amigacoding.de)

@OlafS25

Bit surprised your first "headline" on the site is "Aros - the new gaming platform"...

Having never been a big games fan maybe I'm just a wee bit biased on the subject but when I see that I can't help thinking to myself that all those folk whom have been developing AROS for years and all the work put in and it ends up being "marketed" as nothing more than a "games platform"...

Seems kinda odd and a bit of a disservice to all who put in that time and effort developing AROS to label it as nothing more than something for playing old 80s & 90s games on...

Like I say I've never been a big games fan and maybe that is what AROS was actually developed for (not sure to be honest) but surely it would be better to "advertise" it as something a wee bit more than just something to play some very, very old computer games...

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@Franko

no not for "old" computer games (or at least not for only old games)

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @Franko no not for "old" computer games (or at least not for only old games)

Ahh... I see...

Just seems to me though passing off Aros as nothing more than something for playing games on is kinda playing it down and doing it a bit of a disservice...

Mind you in Amigaland me not being a games fan probably puts me in the minority and probably most folk are happy with Aros being just something for playing games...

Oh well, it was just my thoughts...

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@Franko

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Mind you in Amigaland me not being a games fan probably puts me in the minority

We don't like you minorities around here.... :P Seriously tho I don't use AROS or AmigaOS for games either.

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@Franko

I know that Amiga was (and is) a lot more than gaming but certainly most people connect Amiga with games. And AROS on the other hand is very very fast running native on supported hardware (X86). So I see in this area the most potential to win back some users and developers (at least as a second system). As main system using it for office/web replacing Windows/Mac/Linux there are still some parts missing.

@OlafS25

Always been meaning to ask someone about this and maybe you could answer it for me...

The AROS68K distribution which obviously runs on a 68K machine, what is the point/ benefit of that ???

I mean if your running a real/ classic A1200 for example you would already have either 3.0 or 3.1 rom fitted physically in the machine so (and this i where I don't quite get it) why or what the the point or benefit be of running AROS on such a machine which is after all just doing the exact same things as the original roms... !!!

Can't quite grasp the point or concept in that...

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@Franko

the aim is it actually should offer better functionality than the original roms. one obvious example is you can move windows off the screen when you need them out of your way. much like powerwindows patch did, but available and enabled by default. another is attempted compatibility to the whole range of kickstarts 1.x-3.x at once, without the need to softkicking or switching roms in between. of course aros still have many drawbacks in comparison to the original os, the biggest ow which is speed..

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@Franko

3 additionally advantages at the moment. It is free to download so everybody can use it without legal matters. Of course you can "find" the ROMs in the net if you really want to find them but at least you have a legal source (additionally to amigaforever of course). Everything is adaptable. And third it can be used for 68k emulation in X86 (or ARM or PPC).

@wawa

Ahh.. didn't realise they had actually added "extra features" into the rom...

But speed is definitely a major issue, at least it was when I tried it a wee while back on both an 060 and 030 A1200...

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@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: Of course you can "find" the ROMs in the net if you really want to find them but at least you have a legal source (additionally to amigaforever of course). Everything is adaptable. And third it can be used for 68k emulation in X86 (or ARM or PPC).

That's the thing though if you've got 68K hardware then you've already got the rom...

But I get your point about it use on other processors...

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@OlafS25

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http://aeros.aros-platform.de

How to register amd get access to full AEROS?

Is it reserved just for AresOne customers?

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The AROS68K distribution which obviously runs on a 68K machine, what is the point/ benefit of that ???

Being able to run AROS in UAE on whatever can run UAE (which is almost anything from phones, tablets, PCs and consoles to AmigaNG systems)

Having independent Kickstart ROM is also beneficial in not having to download pirated stuff. As well as ability for it to maybe grow beyond 3.1 ROM

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@Franko

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But speed is definitely a major issue, at least it was when I tried it a wee while back on both an 060 and 030 A1200...

i remember. it got better, especially now one of the developer started to profile the system to optimize it. still it isnt there yet. i will notify you as soon as i consider it could fit within your expectations.

OlafS25:

Nice site. Always a pleasure to see more AROS sites poping up. AROS as a gaming platform is not bad at all. The cool thing with Amiga like OS is that you can run games clicking on icon and don't need all kind of crap things installed to make that work like in world of Linux. You could even boot games directly from a usb-stick or whatever. Just like playing games from Disk on Amiga. AROS or amiga like OS is in many ways only OS capable of something like that. At least without using 5 minutes just to load the OS.

I'm more a beliver of doing something great in a limited OS as AROS, MorphOS or AmigaOS is. You can not just walk over the big Operative systems like windows with doing it all.
Game platform is as Olaf said, what made Amiga famous and can in many ways with mothern hardware like AROS can take advantage of, fit that task well, even if I don't see any game company starting to produce games for it. It can easly be a free open source gameing platform, that should and even is already attractive for many. There is already many nice open source games and the future will bring many more. There is for sure also possible to do commercial stuff.

Again, if Olaf and others wants to advertise AROS as a gameing platform I don't see any reason why any developer, that done whatever kind of work on AROS would dislike that.
If you not noticed in AROSWorld most of the developers do whatever they like. Whatever if it is to make AROS run in a microwave or porting stuff to it ;)

The day people stop doing stuff for a OS. That is the day it is dead.
Go ahead Olaf and do what you do. Great job.

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@Franko

it is still. But there are big progresses regarding Magellan native port and as I understand it it should be easy to port it to AROS (and MOS) and replace Wanderer. And "Wanderer" is one of the weakest points of AROS both regarding functionality and speed.

@vox

You must send a email to get the password to download aeros. As far as I know is 3.5 free whereas the future versions are for the specific hardware reserved. But both are getting updated (the free version and the "closed" version)

Regarding AROS in UAE, I know it runs (of course) in WinUAE and in FS-UAE (recommended if you use it on Mac and Linux. I have some installation recommendations for both on my site). AROS 68k needs P96 emulation so I am not sure if it runs on every emulator. It needs support for 1 MB (for the ROM) and some emulator only support 512 MB but WinUAE and FS-UAE work.

I hope that in future it will also run on tablets. It should run on tablets based on Win 8.

@nikosidis

thanx

I thought about where are the advantages, the "selling points" for AROS compared to Linux/Windows/Mac. The advantages are simplicity and speed. So when AROS will fully support the hardware it will be faster than any other OS. And memory protection is not needed for gaming. For professional applications you already have big established platforms. I know that some have problems with selling AROS (or MorphOS and AmigaOS) as gaming platforms but I think it offers the biggest chances (what not means that you cannot do serious things on these platforms).

@nikosidis

+1 Nikos

btw, any idea when the next update to AspireOS will be coming

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@wawa

What processor have you got in your A4000 ???

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