If I were to build an AROS mini computer from scratch, what other components besides my wish list below I would need to add in terms of hardware and BIOS?

- Motherboard: Gigabyte One x86 system, in Mini-ITX motherboard with CPU and low profile heat sink.
(http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3455#ov )

- Processor Intel dual core i3 2100T (low watts) @2.5GHz

- 8GB RAM DDR3

- picoPSU 150W with external adapter

- 2 x 2.5" Hard disk Drives (320 GB) or Solid State Drive 64GB SSD or more

- 3.5" USB card reader (52in1)

- slim SATA DVD-RW drive with SATA cable

- OS Linux Ubuntu distro (optional but not necessary)

I guess I need a graphic card a wireless board??? What an I missing?

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Do you need that much ram for aros or is it part of a motherboard combo deal? Just thinking cost that's all. Same with ssd's. They are expensive compared to traditional drives. I tried aros on a crappy old laptop and it ram silky smooth.

Not trying to out you off at all. Just want to know the reasoning ;)

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It was that particular motherboard that someone else recommended and it is intended to create a multi OS computer. It would be nice to have that much power, why not.
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CritAnime wrote: @WeiXing3D Do you need that much ram for aros or is it part of a motherboard combo deal? Just thinking cost that's all. Same with ssd's. They are expensive compared to traditional drives. I tried aros on a crappy old laptop and it ram silky smooth. Not trying to out you off at all. Just want to know the reasoning ;)

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@WeiXing3D

I understand ;)

Like I said I wasn't been funny about it. More curious. If you are wanting Linux on there too then you want to go for network cards that have open source or common drivers. I believe Intel cards are pretty well support. And I saw a card today for £10.

As for graphics then nvidia have better Linux support and my 560 gtx ti worked with aros.

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Bye the way, I have a Trendnet, Atheros based PCI wireless card that works beautifully with Icaros 1.5. If anyone is interested, I'll dig out the information on the model no. I think it is extremely valuable to include wireless devices on a small form factor computer because of it's ability to so easily be moved and the need for networking.

Oops! I saw that you asked for a wireless card. I'll dig it out and post the info.

I thought that it was a Trendnet adapter, but it is a TP-Link, TL-WN350GD 54 wireless PCI adapter. I should say with AROS it is very responsive using the atheros5000.device. Very graphical web pages load quite well and absolutely no glitches what so ever in setting it up. The machine I have it setup on is older, but it compares to my aluminum iMac when loading pages.

@azhoward

Yeah sounds like it's a common chipset card. Should work well with linux for a dual boot system.

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For low cost setup I would use AMD E350 based board (sub90eur with CPU), but surely it would only work in vesa mode, but it has PCIe for NVidia GPU.

(what I observed from my usual PC shop, Intel chips are insanely priced)

But for me... I doubt I ever dare to buy such a low end HW if I ever try linux on it. AMD3800+ is already too slow for linux. So, I would use FX4x00 (something like 8x faster than my 3800+ and up to 20x faster (??) than E350) (CPU+MB costs 200eur).

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You should also paste this at http://aros-exec.org/

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Is there a recommended Aros reference system, or at least configurations that have been known to work? I've never been able to boot Aros on any of my systems, so building a system for the express purpose of running Aros seems risky.

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My worst failures have been burning CD-ROM from the AROS DVD image or that a old HW did not have DVD drive, both cause nonbooting case. :|

But with sane DVD & drive it has always booted and usually also installed itself. But often some driver support is missing. I have 5 x86 setups and only one happens to have the new enough Nvidia GPU for accelerated graphics.

(Haiku and some linux distributions (even windows) are less compatible, IMHO, as they fail to install more often than AROS.)

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@bison

This is a hardware wiki for AROS: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_support

You might start by looking there. If you haven't tried the new version, Icaros 1.5, download it and give it a shot. I think it has a different kernel and some significant improvements.

@azhoward

I'm currently running Icaro Desktop 1.5 in my Acer Aspire One but I'd like to build a MIni ITX as a desktop computer.

I still hope someone can recommend what else I need to complete my checklist.

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@WeiXing3D

Well, I should have included this: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL

This includes lists of main boards, desktops and netbooks, etc. It's not entirely up to date I suspect, though. The Intel D945GCLF2 motherboard was used in the Imica systems and it's a mini-itx form factor. Nevertheless, if you go through the supported components there are probably many mini-itx motherboards that will fit the bill if you look around. Even so, one can easily find the Intel D945GCLF2 on Ebay or on the Internet.

http://www.mini-itx.com/ Plenty at this site.

@azhoward

Thanks for the link.

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@WeiXing3D

Quite a powerful machine for aros it runs quite fast even on my old ibm laptop that runs at 850 mhz though not tried amiga emulation .What i am using is a mini itx intel atom based board a dt 2800 dual core 1.6 GHz and that should be plenty powerful i plan to use the on board intel graphics as i think aros supports it fine .I have built two Amiga 500 itx based computers i started from empty cases bought from eBay as for ssd i have a cheapish ocz 120 gb ssd and a 60 gb corsair this cost £28 as it is a refurb unit prices and size are the main thing to consider a 1TB 2.5 Samsung hard drive cost just under £60 pound but a 120 gig ssd is just under 80 quid .

If you just got one pci-express port you must either have supported network card on mobo, something I guess would be not very likely. Adding pci card as suggested by someone else in the thread would be difficult since there are no pci slot.
USB network card will work:

Here is one that is working:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WiFi-Wireless-G-USB-Adapter-Realtek-RTL8187B-chipset-/170721839451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bfd0895b

I can see that it is not anymore left, so I have no idea if you can find them.

I have 2 or 3 that is not opened from the package. I can sell you one if you need it.

For GFX you must go with Nvidia card. From what I rem.. the best supported cards are Gforce 8400 series. There must be some real cheap on ebay I guess.

Just as a warning it might even be possible that AROS does not even boot on that mobo you are looking at and also possible that sound will not work.

I wish you good luck and hope for success story. It is good to know what hardware work and not.

@nikosidis

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I wish you good luck and hope for success story.

As do I!

I decided that the best way for me to run Aros is hosted on a Linux system. I could not find a *new* motherboard with both a supported graphics chip *and* a supported sound chip, though I spent many hours searching at Newegg.

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