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Alexfrench 
Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
Posted on 29-May-2012 11:16:13
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Good morning to all!
ancient amigaiste (1230/50 and A500) and today on pc, soon I hope on AresOne, I found the fire blessed with Winuae 2.4.1 and ClassicWB_p96 which works rather well. In time I tried amos and the blitzbasic, today I would like to recover there. I have therefore download Amiblitz3, it would seem that this works but I could not really try because of PED (the editeur) which launches into a very low resolution, which I even do not manage to change by way of priorities because the panel is not fully approachable because of resolution. There is perhaps means by tooltypes but I ignore to change which in that case. If somebody of you uses Amiblitz3 successfully on an emulated amiga, said me how, unless I waste my time if there are too much problems of compatibilities, in which case I could perhaps shut on the version 2 of the Blitz which I still have. Thank you in advance

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Re: Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
Posted on 29-May-2012 11:34:21
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@Alexfrench

Amiblitz3 is programmed with WinUAE.

first, download last version here.

http://amiblitz3.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/amiblitz3/

use the download GNU tarball (end of the page).

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Re: Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
Posted on 29-May-2012 11:35:50
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@Alexfrench

Short: I do use Amiblitz3.5 on WinUAE, as well as the author of Amiblitz3.5 does (Thilo "Wanderer" Köhler). iBatch was done using Amiblitz.

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Re: Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
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@Mrodfr

Ye... you beat me by just some seconds...

@Alexfrench
check Amiblitz Support forum as well...
www.amiforce.de

I have to go now, but please report back, once you downloaded and installed newest version.

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Posted on 29-May-2012 12:08:29
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If youre using it on Winuae then Id definately use AMiblitz instead of BlitzBasic2.x. It's compatible with old blitz stuff, but has some extra nice system friendly stuff that Blitz Basic2 is lacking, especially concerning rtg and ahi use. The editor is also much, much nicer with Amiblitz3. In fact in my humble opinion its probably the nicest IDE on the Amiga.

The editor screenmode can be changed using preferences from the pull down menus within the editor.

On a real 68k amiga though Id probably stick with BlitzBasic2 as a lot of the extras Amiblitz3 provides require more raw grunt than a real amiga can provide.

Edit: I just noticed you mentioned changing screenmode with the preferences. I cant help there sorry as Ive never experienced that problem with my amiga, amithlon, or winuae.

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Re: Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
Posted on 29-May-2012 13:54:31
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@Alexfrench

Well, Screenresolution and everything else will be saved inside Tooltypes. I just removed the brackets from "USE_WBSCREEN" -> and voilà runs on WB, which enables you to define a new screen...

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Re: Amiblitz3 or Blitz2 on Winuae 2.4.1
Posted on 29-May-2012 14:10:44
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Ok i have dowload the last archives as you said to me. i have read amigaguide files. I've seen there are tooltypes in the amiblitz3 icone to setup the environement of Ped. Particulary i 've seen screenmode button. Before making mistakes i prefer to ask you wich screenmode i have to chose, i would like to set the editor in 800*600 in 8 or 16 colors avec uaegfx mode. Now it 's start in lowres and i can't modify the options, the window is too small.
Thanks

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@Alexfrench

Just set it to what you like to begin with through tooltypes. Once you can access the preferences through the editor try a few different modes until you like the one you like. After that's done put the tooltype option in brackets again so you can use the mode you selected through preferences. 640x480 upwards should be enough to begin with to be able to see preferences. It doesnt make a lot of difference, but personally Id use 16bit and upwards for color depth as it looks much nicer.

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@Alexfrench

Once again, I suggest to just activate "USE_WBSCREEN" (therefore remove brackets) inside tooltypes. Leave everything untouched for a start...

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@Alexfrench

BlitzBasic2 has a few nasty bugs, and if you compile your programs whit debug enabled they crash on AmigaOS4.x, use AmiBlitz3 or start coding C or PortableE.

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Posted on 29-May-2012 16:50:40
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Sorry but i set UseWB and remove brackets, in the tooltypes of Amiblitz3 icon but once the Editor launched it is always in lowres, so when i am trying to change Ped settings i can't have acces to the all content of the prefs window, and there aren't sliders to go down. I don't understand. sorry to be so much lame. Please help me http://amigaworld.net/images/subject/icon9.gif

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Posted on 29-May-2012 17:09:06
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@Alexfrench

Is your workbench also in low res then? The Use_WB tooltype should run amiblitz on your workbench screen, so unless your WB resolution is low I cant understand your problem.
Perhaps a screenshot might help?

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Posted on 29-May-2012 17:47:52
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maybe an old version on amiblitz atthe same place on the HD ?

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Posted on 29-May-2012 18:15:34
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How to put an image here ?
I made screenshots of my Worbench and of the requesters i get when i launch Amiblitz3 ?


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gerograph 
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Posted on 29-May-2012 18:54:45
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@Alexfrench

maybe my fault, when editing tooltypes, remove bracket from "USE_WBSCREEN" and make sure you put "CLONE_WBSCREEN" into brackets. This is how my config looks:



BTW What about starting Amiblitz - switching back to WB Screen (left Amigakey + "M") - dragging WB Screen down about half way, an then access Amiblitz IDEPrefs ?

This is how your prefs should look like:



Inserting Images: To my knowledge, the only way is to upload your screenshot somewhere onto the net and link via "IMG" button.

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Posted on 29-May-2012 21:26:34
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@gerograph

I did like you wrote to me and hourra it works, Ped opens in wb resolution. Now i have to test with some code to see what is working. I upload pictures on imagehacks, i post them here to show you how was my settings.
Thank you for your help, you and all.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/wbresolution.jpg/

Here to show you Amiblitz3 icon which disapear from the Amiblitz3 drawer
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/disparition.jpg/

First requester cause missing fonts (set by option Usewbfont)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/erreur1.jpg/

Second requester (set by Usewb)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/erreur2.jpg/

Ped in lowres (Now it opens with Worbench resolution)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/pedscreen.jpg/

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Posted on 30-May-2012 7:31:15
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@NutsAboutAmiga

That particular issue with compiling with debug enabled still happens on Amiblitz 3 as well. I wouldn't call it a bug though, rather that the debug code which is included in the executable is looking for the runtime debugger, which just isn't there when the executable is run stand-alone. It might have worked under OS3, but it means slower and bigger executables anyway and so shouldn't really be used for executables.

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Posted on 30-May-2012 20:17:41
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@Alexfrench

In time I tried amos and the blitzbasic, today I would like to recover there...
Sorry, you tried wrong. All those programs fall short of what SDLBasic does. I run the same programs on my A1 as well as on my VistaPC. Why use UAE for your programs? Hey this 2012 not 1993... update your thinking please...

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Posted on 30-May-2012 20:49:41
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@Snuffy

1- Because i don't own a real Amiga nowadays.
2- Amiblitz3 isn't old software, it is a rewriting port of Blitzbasic.
3- Maybe i am a litle masochist lolllll
4- i am just discover sdlbasic in your post. I owned amos before too.


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@Snuffy

That's one of the dumbest things Ive seen for a while.
Who are you to tell someone else what to enjoy? Not to mention SDLBasic is less capable than either AMOS or Amiblitz. Can ou use gl functions through sdlbasic. Can you use sdl through SDLBasic? Does SDLBasic give access to amiga native apis? What about mui or reaction? CGX/p96 ? And so on and so forth.
Also a little weird telling someone to "upgrade thier thinking" in an amiga site. It is as you said 2012, not 1993. Why use amiga at all in this day and age? (rhetorical).


@Alexfrench

Hope you have fun and feel free to ask for help if you need it. Unfortunately you may encounter a bit of the above sort of stupidity in the amiga world these days. Some people seem unable to grasp the idea that thier choices arent for everyone.

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