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Apologies, in the time it took me to write that Helgis has changed his mind to being anti-x86 and pro-PPC.

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Even that x86-topics have been explained over and over again, it won't end here. The debate will continue. If not by me, then by others...The debate will continue until we actually see the new AmigaOS on x86...
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Or possibly just for half an hour, until you change your mind.

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@Boot_WB

we should just create a forum for "os4 on x86 hw advocacy", and just not display those messages on the main page.

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Wizzard_o wrote: @polka. To Quote a bowl of Petunias "Oh no, not again!" wizz.

Hi Wizzard_o,


Eeeeehehehe!!!

Beat me to it.

HHGttG Rulez!



Hi Helgis,

I have started this x86 thread a couple times too, and have decided it would be a waste of time for them to port there, as PPC is still advancing and the endian issue is big, and there's just too many MBs to support, and even if a unique MB was made, well, that one's not as easy to dismiss, but it's just not necessary to go x86 anymore, I feel.

Everything's gone way, way too far in the direction they've chosen a long time ago. Hyperion has coded over 40,000 PPC assembler lines into AOS4.0, that's a lot to redo for x86.

I'm confident in that PPC RISC is the better choice right now.


AOS4.0 will not fail. I can see it in the amount of SW that's been released and the further effort put forward by others for this "dead" platform.

@Helgis

No, not a new enemy, I have no enemies in the Amiga community.

Just think if you're going to start a debate/campaign you should perhaps have a position in the first place which isn't going to change within half an hour.

Apologies if my tone came across as hostile, it is just weary of intent without direction.

Wahhhhh! I want OS4! Where's the frikkin' hardware???

Sorry, emotional outburst.

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@Rogue

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@Boot_WB

Thanks Yes, no enemies

@All

Yep, seems that PPC RISC really is the future, and i'm very happy for that

If all women were PPC, then we would be even more happy

@Atheist

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I'm confident in that PPC RISC is the better choice right now.

Define "RISC" .

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@Helgis

IIRC it has been hinted a long time ago that AOS5.x might be on x86... NOT AOS4.x.
Also some people claims that AROS is more advanced than AOS4, that AROS will ALWAYS be ahead of AOS4, and that AROS run on x86... So AROS could well be the future for those who wants AOS on x86...
BTW: These are the same people saying that AOS4 is dead...

Jerry

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@jahc

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we should just create a forum for "os4 on x86 hw advocacy", and just not display those messages on the main page.

Splordid idea

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@jahc

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we should just create a forum for "os4 on x86 hw advocacy", and just not display those messages on the main page.

We had already a thread like that IIRC... It was called "The Whinning Thread"...

Jerry

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@Helgis
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If all women were PPC, then we would be even more happy

You really need professional help, Helgis.

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@polka.

what about a DUAL HELGIS BRAIN machine? not 1gigaflops.. but 1 flops..

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Also some people claims that AROS is more advanced than AOS4, that AROS will ALWAYS be ahead of AOS4, and that AROS run on x86... So AROS could well be the future for those who wants AOS on x86...

Names please... AROS has it's plus points above AmigaOS 4, and namely of being in x86, 68k and ppc land... and it is open source, which most think that might give it the edge...

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BTW: These are the same people saying that AOS4 is dead...

Too much assumptions are bad to your health

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@jahc

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we should just create a forum for "os4 on x86 hw advocacy", and just not display those messages on the main page.

Well, the x86-topic will always pop up again when the future of AOS (beyond 4.0) is being discussed. You can't separate it from other discussions that involve speculation and opinions on the future direction.

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@afxgroup

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what about a DUAL HELGIS BRAIN machine? not 1gigaflops.. but 1 flops..

The question is just if Helgis is going to walk with the left (flip) or right (flop) sandal.

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@jahc

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we should just create a forum for "os4 on x86 hw advocacy", and just not display those messages on the main page.

I just don't understand why that people who doesn't have the vested interest in it are compelled to enter on those. It reminds me an alchoolic which can't get away from the bar and then blames the bartender for serving him a drink...

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AROS has it's plus points above AmigaOS 4,

The massive plus point is, no Amiga Inc or (insert another crappy companies name) to stop progress.

@Rogue

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you are just another one of the know-it-all type that thinks he knows better.

At least he knows how to have a polite discussion without personally attacking the other party.

As for the "know-it-all" type of person, I'm sure you have lots of experience on that front.

Call me when AmigaOS4 will be a success, then you might have the right to be so condescending with people who have a different opinion than yours.

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@polka.

Heck, the psychologs weren't professional enough

@Hammer

Okay, very easy. RISC is short for "Reduced Instruction Set Component"...

There you go