Hi Guys,

first, this poll is not an official Amigaworld Poll and in no way is it affiliated with Amigaworld.

I am conducting this poll, purely out of interest.

However, I hope you will all take part.

Many thanks.

Mikey C

Your Comments are welcome, they are a lot more valuable than a poll

Last edited by Mikey_C on 13-Oct-2006 at 11:13 AM.

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@Mikey_C

I just voted and everything is at 16% - spooky...

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@Mikey_C

I voted that I liked it before (which is an understatement).

@Mikey_C

I havent been here that long but what I have noticed over the lsat couple of yeasrs is that it hasnt really changed.

Its still full of helpfull inteligent people who love there Amiga's

Amiboy

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@Mikey_C

EDIT: I voted for "I liked aw.net the way it was before".

I'm sick of the same people posting over and over about how unhappy they are about amiga scene issues. They have to fill up every hardware thread with a ton of posts, always with the same broken record. Some of these guys post bitter crap all the time on other boards, and then they bring that attitude on here, but toned down slightly to avoid moderation. I'm sick of the jabs. The little remarks that arent offensive enough to be moderated, but build up tension over time with regular forum readers like myself.

Athiest is part of the problem too. he over reacts, and then all the people that whine all the time whine even louder.

I'm unhappy with the os4 hardware situation too. Lots of people are. But you dont see me spending all the free time every day posting crap about it. Whats the point in saying the same thing over and over?

aw.net should go back to nazi moderation.

Last edited by jahc on 13-Oct-2006 at 11:39 AM.

@Mikey_C

IMHO, it was so much better with so many friendly people around when I joined !
Now you have to be careful at what you say and how you say it all the time if you don't want to be responsible to a flamefest !!!

Jerry

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@Mikey_C

I voted I liked it more before, but not the reason listed : because people where more civilized before, and there was not such(less?) anger/personnal attacks against everybody that we can see now. Also AW.net is becoming really boring to read because of the same dead-end sujects posted again and again by the same guys with the same arguments, no more (or so much rarely) interesting discussions (technical or not) with temptered people.
In fact the recent openness of site is a good idea IMHO, but only if respectable people (from any camp, there are also OS4 integrists on this site that are as much blamable as the other so-called "foreigners trolls"). in fact *respect* is the key and despiste the fact I'm using OS4, I gladly discuss with MOS fans or AROS ones. Some passionate discussions on utilitybase between falemagn and me come to my mind and even if we were not of the same opinion all stayed respectfull and not insulting, that's the way I see how things should happen, but I guess this is a general way of life thoses days... Too bad

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Somehow I feel that the same polls are made over again, and sadly by the same usual suspects...

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@pixie

Don't mince your words, you haven't in the past, you say one thing here, then slag me off elsewhere.

So, come out and say it straight please.

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@Mikey_C

I liked it how it was before..

Too much mumbojumbo on these days, should be more important to get something
like OS4 problems tracked , and hopefully fixed, but threads are almost everything else that somehow Amiga related. And Classics too of cource.
I little grown that up but you got the point.

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Hi Mikey_C,


I'm sick and tired of trying to avoid the bear traps, mine fields, and fishing hooks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hitting the "report abuse" button I feel is very unuseful.

If my record is checked, I've hit it about 6 times, and 2 times I might have been the only person to get irate about a post, and the person's abuse count didn't go up.

Often most "report abuse"'s seem to just be transfered to the "free speech" and "they're allowed to their opinion" file, which IS okay, but for the place cliche here* time???


Also, it took a long time for a certain person's signature to be changed. It was quite hostile, as a few people's still are now.

It's just not pleasant seeing these types of things.


Also, the deliberate planting of threads which have been discussed place cliche here* keep appearing!


If one ignores any and all of the spats, what is really different between http://Amiga.Org and what is available at this website, services wise? It's almost a clone now. Oh, we have most of the AOS4.x coders** here..... who are being tormented, humiliated and belittled. Do they want their time wasted on yet another exhausting x86 thread? They're more concerned about x86ing their income!! Do they need to be reminded 6 times a day that they have no HW still? That this glorious abundant HW is already for sale second hand everywhere?? We all know it would be the "Herculean task" to get it up and running on the at least 50 incarnations of the unnamed HW in question. It's not going to happen.

Well, I've wind bagged enough.




* i.e. eighteen point four million times, ad naseum, over and over, etc.

** I'm talking operating system, not third party SW

@Mikey_C

Quote:

So, come out and say it straight please

OK. You've done this repeatedly - starting polls to try to justify your desire to restrict the discussion on Amigaworld.net in line with your own views/prejudices. Previous attempts by you have produced the opposite result to the one you wanted - the majority of visitors actually want Amigaworld.net to be open to all views and opinions without prejudice.

Please stop coming up with the same poll again and again, but with slightly different wording. If somebody with a different viewpoint to yourself tried this they would probably have been banned by now.

I hope that's clear.

@RedMelons

I am as much entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. If you see the comments above, you will see that some people want Amigaworld to return to a more Amiga OS4 centric stance.

Or put it another way, they just want amigaworld to be what it once was, a friendly pro AmigaOS website.

Do you know how many unprocessed reports get generated everyday since we went "Open"?

Again, I must state that, this poll is done off my own back, it has no official Amigaworld backing. You can quite happily start your own poll. If you want, start a petition to get me out of here. If I'm not wanted, I'll go.

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@Mikey_C

What hadn't I stated here that I had elsewhere? While I'm not allowed to talk openly about you as moderator namely because it's against the TOS ( and I do understand why ), I did expressed my view with the moderators as well on other sites which (obviously) don't have it as against their TOS.
As for my wording I think it stands pretty obvious, look at RedMelons, he had no problems to understanding my wording, and I assure you I didn't explained him what I meant...

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@pixie

Fine, as I have said, if you guys want me out of here, then get in touch with DaveyD or start a petition.

I ain't got no problems with it.

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@Mikey_C

I like that discussion and debate is actually allowed now. Fora kinda tend to lose their purpose without it... I also like that "Amiga Community Portal" no longer is a total misnomer. This whole site per se is no longer a standing joke -- only a few of us participants are jokes, just like things should be! ;)

The damage that this site did in its ugly past by creating and doing its best to uphold divisions and camps, by promoting lies and fraud while suppressing debate and questioning, is history now, even if some things are too late to repair.

Those who only wish to praise AInc and their licensed products and services still have the fora on the corporate website at their disposal.

Some people complain about repeated topics. Well, what's up for discussion hasn't changed much, partly thanks to the damage done by the "old" AW.net. But no-one is forced to read those topics, and there wouldn't exactly be MORE to discuss if certain topics, opinions or people were banned, as some seem to wish was the case!

[Edit: For others reading in Flat Mode, this was in response to the poll's question, not in direct response to the ensuing Mikey_C/RedMelons/Pixie subthread]

Last edited by Seehund on 13-Oct-2006 at 12:35 PM.

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Oh, bother.

@Mikey_C

I couldn't care less with you being here or not, don't need to play as victim... I've stated my opinion on your bias, now you might as well shoot me...

Now, had Atheist be a moderator and it would be quite a different story...

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@Mikey_C

Hey Mikey, your poll is just fine.


It is better then the poll i would have started:

Troll-Poll: How do you see yourself:

I am not a troll
I am a blue troll
I am a red troll
I am a purple troll

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@Dirk-B

With multiple selection, I hope

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@Seehund

Whilst I agree with your points I have to ask, who was the "Old" Amigaworld damaging? Granted there is a lot more discussion taking place on amigaworld than there was before.

However, Amigaworld was once a pro Amiga OS site, if you didn't like it, you didn't have to come here. Same as Morphzone, which still is a pro MOS/Genesi site and even Aros has its own community portal. Surely, by your own arguments these sites should be dismantled?

As long as they exist they will continue to fester divisions.

In my opinion, Amigaworld has just become another repeated argument website.

When Amiga Inc posts something positive, you can be assured that within minutes BBRV and those who support him will post a counter news item on Amigaworld to drown the "noise" out.

I think the latest, forum post over Garry Hare Vs Amiga inc proves my point. In the old days, that post would never have been created on Amigaworld, or if it had, would have rapidly lost interest. Instead we have the usual MOS supporters and AROS supporters posting on there, winding the Pro Amiga camp up.

How many times have we seen that pattern on other sites like ANN and Amiga.org?

I understand how some view me as a dinosaur or a relic of the "bad old days" of Amigaworld, but I think some will agree I make some valid comments.

Last edited by Mikey_C on 13-Oct-2006 at 12:41 PM.

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