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Do we know for sure that "Carl-S" is the real thing?

Oh for petes sakes, I was at the show & Carl is for real!
His posts are a dead giveaway.

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Btw, who IS Carl Sassenrath?

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Kids these days. They don't know anything.

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When it comes to building and selling a computer system, you have to make many difficult decisions, but at the start you need to clearly define your vision and goals. What are you trying to make? If you cannot define it, you cannot build it.

Be it MorphOS, OS4, I asked what people were targetting... and never had any answers. I guess people don't really know.

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I see a lot of "fragmentation" of the Amiga. Whereas the word Amiga once meant something very specific, that unity is gone. But, the success of any valid platform requires strong unity and growth. Of course, this is all easy to say. It is very difficult to achieve. As an eternal optimist, it seems to me that there must be a solution lurking somewhere in all of this.

Well... I don't think any unification can happen. Simply because people seem to have gone too far. Hyperion is rewritting what AROS/MorphOS team have been doing since 10 years. People are porting what MorphOS developpers already ported for MorphOS. All these groups are doing exactly the *same thing*, facing exactly the *same problems*...

Yes, I think the only way would be to unify everyone... But who will do it ? You ?
I don't think anyone can do it now. The Amiga means too much for these guys... So much that any critic on their baby is taken as personal attack... so much that they can't have an objectif look at anything...

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After all, I know quite well what an Amiga is. To me, Amiga is well defined. I just wish I could buy it somewhere... for a reasonable price.

Well... I think the definition of the Amiga should evolve now... or rest in piece...

Regards,
Leo.

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I got a reply from REBOL Feedback.

The reply confirmed that the user Carl-S is indeed Mr. Carl Sassenrath.

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@tomazkid

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The reply confirmed that the user Carl-S is indeed Mr. Carl Sassenrath.

Excellent!

Carl is great. Still trying to finish the Amiwest audio file were Carl was speaking. He's a great speaker. Talking about heroes.

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Maybe we should ask for finger prints & a retina scan just to be on the safe side.

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@Carl-S

Welcome Carl. I totally enjoyed your Interview at AmiWest this past weekend. I was part of the internet audience. lf you enjoy the company of those like me, who root for the Amiga OS beyond any logical or marketing reason, you've come to the right place. I hope your "validation" goes well and you enjoy the stay.


Plaz

@Carl-S

Just a link... I've posted my Definition of Amiga to a new topic, rather than clutter this topic any further.

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@Plaz

Thanks Plaz and others. I'm glad you enjoyed my talk. AmiWest was a fun show all around.

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@Leo

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Well... I don't think any unification can happen. Simply because people seem to have gone too far.

I don't completely agree. If the right leadership was assembled, many rifts could be mended. Past history does say though that the chances of that happening are a looooong shot.

Plaz

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I'd be happy to elaborate on that. Let me write it up after lunch and post it under a new topic. I'll keep it short and to the point.

Great! I just noticed your heads-up in this thread... can't wait to read it...
... what I pity I won't have the time to answer
In the meanwhile, thank you so much for taking the time and sharing your thoughts with us Amiga survivors

saimo

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@Carl-S

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Carl-S wrote: Just a link... I've posted my Definition of Amiga to a new topic, rather than clutter this topic any further.

I just happened across this thread.

Carl. I hope to read more of your posts on here in the future.

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@saimo

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BTW: not rarely I've been surprised by the difference it makes also for people that use computers just like their cars... they may not know a single thing about how they work, but they do notice the difference when they stop at the gas station

Precisely.

When I stop at the petrol station, after going 350km in my car, I (a) start by putting 35ml of additive into the tank, because there is no more LRP in Australia, (b) pick the "95 octane" bowser and (c) put about 36 litres of petrol into my car. I have a very simple, I-can-understand-how-it-works car. Actually *the* quintessential simple car :)

When a friend with one of those over-engineered recent-model Toyota Camrys fills up after 350km, she doesn't need additive. She doesn't need 95 octane fuel. And she certainly doesn't need 36 litres of it.

And let's not even talk about that engineering monster, the Prius. Two engines (they call it "hybrid", but really, most of the time, you aren't using more than 50% of the resources of the car! Scandalous!), some humongous battery, big, heavy. God, I'd hate to fill up one of them after 350km....

Car analogies. Gotta love'em :)

@Leo

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Hyperion is rewritting what AROS/MorphOS team have been doing since 10 years.

Come on Leo, MorphOS is doing what since 10 years ? PPC accelerators were barely imaginated by Phase5 so how can the OS working on it can have something to provide ? At most MorphOS has 6 years, and if you count on PUP it can add let say 2 years (but I would disagree because PUP has nothing to do with what MorphOS is, only sharing the same exe format/ABI).
Although I agree AROS has 10 years, even more IIRC it started around 1992/1993...

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lovely wrote: @Tigger What's up with you? , i think you ate something bad today. and for the record please show us something he made for OS4.

Why on Earth do you think its a good idea to tell someone developing a modern application on MorphOS which could be ported to OS4 to go work on a Mac? Just because Kronos doesnt have an OS4 program at the moment(as neither Carl nor I do), doesnt mean his concerns are incorrect, or that the OS4 community wouldnt be better off running on modern hardware, instead of currently running only on a board that was last manufactured in December of 2004. In a very short time the 2 year anniversary of the last Teron board rolling off the line will occur, I just don't think anyone asking when is there going to be new hardware almost two years after the last one came off the line is being unreasonable. OS4 runs on less then 1000 currently running boards, for months Hyperion has been saying thats not there problem, now they say they are fixing the problem, instead of us concentrating on getting them to clarify how/when they are going to fix the issue, we have people implying there isnt an issue.
-Tig

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@umisef

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At the risk of being OT --- I *still* don't understand why an OS (rather than the formware) would need to know anything about the northbridge.

PCI? The PCI bridge usually resides in the northbridge, and not all of them use the same indirect PCI setup.

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Macs already have perfectly good firmware which has been in use by literally millions of people for years....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK Apple OpenFirmware does not support RTAS, does it?

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@Tigger

Just because someone writes MorphOS programs doesn't mean he has any intention of porting them to OS4. Here we have a person who's putting down OS4, which *probably* means that he's got a low opinion of it. Since this is something he does for fun, since he's got a low opinion of OS4 there's a very low likelyhood of him writing code for it. Therefore he didn't exactly get chased away from OS4, he just never really wanted to be here. A bit like a Linux kernel developer being "chased away" from a job at Microsoft because MS puts out bad publicity about Linux...

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK Apple OpenFirmware does not support RTAS, does it?

Run-time abstraction service? OpenFirmware is used for bootup, why would it support RTAS? I'm sure you knew that before you asked the question. It doesn't matter though, you and the rest of the Hyperion crowd have made it very clear that you cannot port to Apple hardware.

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@Carl-S

Your Amiwest speech was very interesting, I was glued to the stream. Thank you for that.

You are a man with great vision and a history with the Amiga. Would you kindly buy Amiga Inc and/or OS4 and right this ship? BTW, I am not joking.

First login and post here in 17 months.

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