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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 14:29:57
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| @Rogue
No it is not VP based, not being a developer I can't say much more, Linnar will be able to tell you.
@Linnar I know the dev kit was available for download but I guess that was a fault as I was able to download it myself. So again I'm asking where is AA2 (apart from probably) being used in the cute Snowman creator thing.
Anyway AA2 only compiles for winblows (AFAIK) and without OS4 support I have no interest. _________________
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 14:31:42
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| @linnar
I really liked what Jamie Krueger was doing for AmigaOS. I dont know if he is part of AmigaOS 4 team. Not heard much of him since working with Amiga Inc.
I hope Jamie continues his developer suite.
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If AmigaInc made a game maker suite then they have a chance.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 15:38:32
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| @Rogue
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Is there a difference between Elate/Intent and AA2? I thought they were both the same.
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No, AA2 is just a static link library that offers multimedia functions and is supposed to support various platforms ("supposed to" because the first release only contains a Windows Mobile build IIRC). The compiler provided with the SDK is GCC. More information can be found in this thread.
They probably just recycled parts from the original AA (which more or less died with Amiga Washington - according to Francis Charig, later AI incarnations never had a Elate/Intent license). Why anyone would use AA2 instead of SDL, Allegro etc. remains a mystery to me
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 15:53:21
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| Does anybody here have any proof about AA2.....screenshots, etc. ???
Oh and where did that casino game go from amiga.com site ??? - it seems like it has dissapeared. it looked cool!
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 16:48:04
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fryguy wrote: @linnar
Is that you Bill? :)
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No. no, but I have some bill's at home... (My homepage) Quote:
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No, the last period I write was: " Re: Amiga Inc v. Hyperion VOF (update 19 Feb 2008) (23-Feb-2008 20:13:11)"
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 16:54:21
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| @Rogue
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Rogue wrote: @linnar
Is there a difference between Elate/Intent and AA2? I thought they were both the same. And I don't mean the editor.
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Are You joking? AA2-lib is from the first codeline to the last codeline "in hose product" (I think). In the h.cod I find some name for the programmer.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 16:59:43
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@Linnar I know the dev kit was available for download but I guess that was a fault as I was able to download it myself. So again I'm asking where is AA2 (apart from probably) being used in the cute Snowman creator thing.
Anyway AA2 only compiles for winblows (AFAIK) and without OS4 support I have no interest. |
Yes, but in the code I find name for other OS. And I find a lot of "beta version". I post litle of the codexample later!
I come back when I find how I download it (it was a ~'Year ago).
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 17:25:59
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| @linnar
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No. I really thought it was. At least I always had the impression that AmigaAnywhere was about code transportability, something I have never understood the necessity of given the fact that Java already does that, and with a good deal more industry standard support.
I quickly lost interest in the first AmigaAnwhere/AmigaDE/Tao Intent or whatever it was called at that time because I did not see any advantage of programming assembler other than speed, which was not something that VP excelled at, nor did it pretend to be aimed at that.
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No, AA2 is just a static link library that offers multimedia functions and is supposed to support various platforms ("supposed to" because the first release only contains a Windows Mobile build IIRC). The compiler provided with the SDK is GCC. |
Thanks for the clarification. What happened to the code transportability?
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More information can be found in this thread. |
I'll have a look, thanks
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Why anyone would use AA2 instead of SDL, Allegro etc. remains a mystery to me |
Especially considering how much extra code libraries you get for e.g. SDL. It's widely accepted, available on practically any platform, so yeah, I don't quite get it either. You gotta have something seriously good to offer to convince people to use it, especially with an open source project.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 17:31:09
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| @Thread
The christmas webpage is just for the benefit of the Judge to pretend that Amiga Inc is still a proper company.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 17:37:06
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| I read up on Amiga Anywhere 2 and now understand that you don't need AA2 on your machine to run an AA2 program. So it is likely that the Snowman Maker is an AA2 endeavour. Part of the reason they're selling it is to encourage people to develop using AA2, after they have seen what it is capable of doing.
Btw I had an Amiga 500, bought in 1988 or so, and the RF adaptor broke on me in about 1995, rendering the graphics in shades of green. Having used PCs since, mostly for schoolwork, the experience was NOT like Amiga. I started looking at Amiga again this year and have bought Amiga Forever 2008, and started to think that Amiga is possibly going to (boing-ball) bounce back into the computer world. I look foward to such a time if it comes. Hopefully 2009 will see new things.
Windows is not interesting, v expensive and more... Last edited by Al4 on 15-Dec-2008 at 05:53 PM. Last edited by Al4 on 15-Dec-2008 at 05:51 PM. Last edited by Al4 on 15-Dec-2008 at 05:49 PM. Last edited by Al4 on 15-Dec-2008 at 05:38 PM.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:00:16
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my guess is that the bounch back will more or less happen in 2015 or 2020...
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:16:55
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| Here is a example code!
//______________________________________________________________ // // Hello World. // This is the classic "Hello World" application. // The "Hello, world!" text is drawn in a window. // // Copyright (C) 2006-2007 Amiga Inc. // All rights reserved. // // This file may be used under the terms of // the Amiga Anywhere Sample Code Licence. //______________________________________________________________ //
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int aaMain(int argc, char **argv) { aaOpenDisplay(200, 200, 16, "My Window", FAA_DISPLAY_WINDOW); aaDrawString(AA_DISPLAY_PIXMAP, "Hello, world!", 20, 20, AA_DEFAULT_FONT, 0xffff00, 0, FAA_FONT_INK, -1); aaUpdate(); aaWaitInput(); return 0; }
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:19:59
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AMOS, anyone? _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:22:03
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mmmh... I don't think anything will happen, ever. Not until somebody takes Amiga away from Amiga Inc.'s grasp.
It looks more and more like a sort of pension scheme. They bought Amiga and this is enough to see them through to retirement.
I have personally seen NOTHING, absolutely ZERO coming from Amiga Inc.
I, like 90% of the people on this forum, am not interested in some kind of portable code, I don't care, like Rogue said there are better supported languages that do that.
I haven't seen a new Amiga computer coming from them, not even a case () so why should I believe them and support them.
I am interested in Amiga as an advanced, powerful, efficient multimedia machine with an elegant Amiga OS on it, not in abstract promises.
I believe in SAM and OS4.1, I believe in something I can touch and see, I believe in my hard work on the Minimig case, in my hard work in my case for the SAM.
I don't believe in someone who, more than once, has stabbed me in the back.
This is what people want, new Amigas, the continuation of OS4 development, the rest is futile smoke.
These people have lost their marbles!
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:26:08
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| And here is from the manual (202 PDF-page) This is some audio-fuktions meny
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5.2 Audio Library API 8 Typedefs • typedef AaTableIndex AaMusic • typedef AaTableIndex AaSound Functions • void aaCloseMusic (AaMusic music) • void aaCloseSound (AaSound sound) • int32 aaGetModulePos (AaMusic module) • int32 aaGetMute (void) • int32 aaGetVolume (void) • AaMusic aaLoadMusic (const char filename) • AaMusic aaLoadMusicTo (AaMusic music, const char filename) • AaSound aaLoadSound (const char filename) • AaSound aaLoadSoundTo (AaSound sound, const char filename) • void aaPlayMusic (AaMusic music) • void aaPlaySound (AaSound sound) • void aaSetModulePos (AaMusic module, int32 position) • void aaSetMusicVolume (int32 volume) • void aaSetMute (int32 mute) • void aaSetNumVoices (int32 voices) • bool aaSetSoundLoop (AaSound sample, uint32 start, uint32 end, int32 count) • bool aaSetSoundPriority (AaSound sound, int32 priority) • bool aaSetSoundRate (AaSound sound, int32 frequency) • bool aaSetSoundVoice (AaSound sound, int32 voice) • void aaSetVolume (int32 volume) • void aaStopAllMusic (void) • void aaStopAllSounds (void) • void aaStopSound (AaSound sound) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The manual is very nice and a good work. _________________ There are very interesting in all languages. http://www.kensonpro.com Program, codes for websites, hifi, measuring instruments and more. The site is of more than 1200 pages and nearly 3Gb . |
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:35:11
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I understund that! But a smal computer/OS company must make money from somthing and AA2 is a good think to do that. The Amiga market is very small in the moment therfore the AI can't make money only to do somting for A-market. With AA2 they have a very mutch biger market. And when the money is going in they can make Your dream.
To do somthing without money is a "misson impossible", it's sad but tru!
And now I must go on with my programing.... (not Amiga related, sorry)
EDIT: @olegil AMOS! Yees, I have very mutch fun with Amos to ~17 year ago. But the AA2 is a C-programming. Amos is a Basic-like programming.
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:38:23
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true true..... its efficient multimedia machine with an elegant Amiga OS on it we want....
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:40:35
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They have no money?!
I am so tired of this!
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:42:16
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| Here is the download links:
AmigaWorld post
I don't know if it work's anymore!
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Re: amiga incīs homepage updated. merry xmas Posted on 15-Dec-2008 20:42:54
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| The things I would have done with Amiga and its name in almost ten years!
I could list them but I have not enough time nor space!
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