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Gleng 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:14:16
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@fairlanefastback

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Show us a Youtube video, otherwise you are in the waste bin along with ACK.


Yeah. Pretty much that, to be honest.

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:19:14
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@Tomas

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Tomas wrote:
@Troika
Is it possible to upload a video of it running linux?

People will remain very skeptical unless you actually show us something.


Yes, agreed... and for the record, I would advise against using CGI...

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:22:09
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@DJBase

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I don't know...it sounds like a new vapor story to me. You should better come back when you have a working and running prototype with some pictures or videos.


sorry you feel this way.

This is one of our Software development and testing systems used in our development program. Please note the added a printout from the BBC news website today.







(Mod's note: Fixed image size, second time this thread. Please remember the MAXIMUM horizontal size is 640 pixels, thanks. If you would care to LINK to an image that is large enough for people to actually SEE, please do.)

Last edited by tomazkid on 05-Feb-2009 at 10:49 PM.
Last edited by Yo on 05-Feb-2009 at 10:34 PM.

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fairlanefastback 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:22:13
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@Gleng

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Gleng wrote:
@fairlanefastback

Quote:

Show us a Youtube video, otherwise you are in the waste bin along with ACK.


Yeah. Pretty much that, to be honest.


I think we have some good companies who have gotten us products finally, Acube with SAM, Hyperion with OS 4.1 for multiple systems. Genesi provided Efika that is MOS capable and Pegasos II which is OS 4.1 capable in the past.

The Amiga Incorporateds, ACKs, Troikas, they give us a lot of unsubstantiated words.

Amiga OS 5 will be "much better than Mac OS X from Apple".

New ACK Amigas will be here in 2007.

And now this Troika talk again.

All that anyone asks is a little bit of proof. Its not very difficult.

EDIT: Troika just at least posted a pic right above me now. Good show!

Last edited by fairlanefastback on 05-Feb-2009 at 10:26 PM.

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:30:13
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@troika

Which is the different with sam motherboard???

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fairlanefastback 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:32:50
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@amitv

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amitv wrote:
@troika

Which is the different with sam motherboard???



The price is more attractive at first glance. Though not knowing full specs it might not be as much as a value as it first looks like. But if it puts OS 4.1 in the reach of more hobbyists in this worldwide recession it might be a good thing.

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tonyw 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:42:44
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@fairlanefastback

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EDIT: Troika just at least posted a pic right above me now. Good show!


Was that an apology?

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fairlanefastback 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:50:20
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@tonyw

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tonyw wrote:
@fairlanefastback

Quote:

EDIT: Troika just at least posted a pic right above me now. Good show!


Was that an apology?


No. I don't owe one to anyone. As a consumer I'm going to let companies know what I think of them when they don't back up their claims, especially in the Amiga market which has a long history of bull crap from companies.

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:50:54
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Troika:
What number will this board carry in its name? '07?


"The system codenamed Prometheus/Amy05 had
taken us into one direction, grown and as time
progressed became costly, and slightly dated with
regard to the technology used."



..I really understand how you consider Amy´05* "slightly dated".


* '05 is not a year!

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fryguy 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 22:54:04
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@ironfist

lol no '07 was to recently :)

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webhead 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:12:52
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@billt

my ideas are suggestions, and i still want agp or pci-e ,and the use of plugin cpu,s is a good 1 as if you cant afford top spec you can go lower until you can afford the high just like pc,s do.

its a better idea and helps people out ,your idea of a 2ghz minimum sucks as it will put the price up too much ,so your idea equals about 10 people buying them my way keeps it alive.

actualy you sound like you worked for commodore lol they sucked.

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Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:31:09
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@Troika

Nice that you posted that photo. Now can we see photo of Troika board?

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Plaz 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:32:31
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Honestly Troika, you're probably hurting yourself more than helping at this point.

Plaz

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Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:42:33
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@billt

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What's wrong with approaching Amiga design this way? If they can ge tthe gerbers, and maybe Freescale gives those away, it's easier to take a working dsign and remove things than it is to take a blank slate and add new things starting from nothing.


Would it be too obvious just to remove extra chips?

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:52:03
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@d0c

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the biggest obstacle will be hyperion, they will never give you guys a licence

Since when did Hyperion start issuing licences?

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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:56:04
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From: Chicago, Illinois

Hi everyone!

Never trust anyone involved with Amiga Inc. The only companies to deliver are Hyperion and Acube. I am looking forward to purchasing the Sam-Flex board. This is just another pipe dream from the Amiga Inc. gang.

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Ruud 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2009 23:56:09
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@Rob

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Most motherboards I have seen that support PCI-Express also support PCI so that's not the reason. The reason is that the boards released so far are based on SOC design which do not implement PCI-Express.


Of course, I should have thought of that...

Quote:

Hans de Ruiter is working on drivers for RV5xx and RV6xx cards, he currently has PCI versions of Radeon X1300, X1550 and HD2400 so he can develop the drivers on his A1 whilst keeping his usual card in the AGP slot. Read the blog here.


Yes indeed. I knew Hans was working on drivers just wasn't sure whether hardware manufacturers would commit to pci-e before they were near to completion.

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Ruud 
Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 6-Feb-2009 0:00:11
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@billt
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billt wrote:

I'm working on a plan to have a number of PCI-Express slots connected to my AmigaOne. I already have one of them, and Olegil already has one slot. Then all I need is time and motivation. But I'm currently making wedding plans for this summer also, so I may be distracted. :)


Sounds like a cool project but I can understand why you maybe a little distracted. It's obvious which is more important though

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Posted on 6-Feb-2009 0:18:35
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@Troika

Having more choice is good, but I can't decide whether I want to spend money based on a trace diagram. Can you please specify:

1. CPU on the board (the reference board has an MPC8349E, what would the Amy have?)
2. Speed the CPU is clocked at
3. Memory (onboard and maximum after expansion)
4. Available expansion buses (PCI, USB, etc)

After this people will be able to make informed comparisons with the Sam440 and the Efika, and then we can start to make informed decisions.

Tip: As you've already seen, playing coy with this audience won't help your cause; a lot of us have had faith in the Amy and Panda, only to have our trust thrown back in our faces. You're no longer the only game in town; the SAM440 is not the best bang for buck but it is in production and by all accounts works very well. There are only a few of us willing to hear you out, and if you lose our goodwill by playing games you'll find that you have no-one left to sell to. And if this turns out to be just some Amiga Inc ploy to help their case (the timing of this announcement is... suspicious) you'd better just cancel your amigaworld account and move on.

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Posted on 6-Feb-2009 0:36:56
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@Troika

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This is one of our Software development and testing systems used in our development program.


That is the reference board. It most decidedly is *not* the board which you hinted at with the first post in this thread.

The board in this photo has 6 magnetics packages for the 6 ethernet ports (4 are visible at the top left, next to that tangle of power cables). "Your board" has only one such package.

In other words --- business as usual for Troika. Posting photos of things which would be lying around most small to medium sized tech companies, and posting board layouts which at best indicate a passing familiarity with layout programs.

To be blunt --- the cleaners at my previous job had access to all the things you have "shown".

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