@number6

Does this mean that DiscreetFX made more money on yet another bounty that dosen't go to anyone and for which the interest on the money and where that is is in question?

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I would buy a board only if its at least 1.4ghz, has at least 3 pci, usb2, etc.
More highend then lowend. I already have Amigaone so nothing low as the SAM or other near that is interesting for me.

@Troels

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The YDL Powerstation is priced rather nicely IMHO.

Indeed. Price/performance, it blows away anything else I'm aware of already on the market. It also blows away any fantasy specs machine I can imagine building myself right now the way I'd want to do things. If PA Semi was still around, my imagination would be doing better, but eh lack of battery powered G5s ruins all that.

I think they have a good enough market built up that they are good to sell things at this price, I don't think it is a clearance sale.

What would be great is if someone in teh Amiga community was putting together a business plan to get OS4 on these things and present it to hyperion and (if necessary) Amiga Inc. and try to make it happen. I've already been shot down on my iBook and other proposals, its someone else's turn. Plus, I myself am not really interested in yet another desktop/tower. I want a laptop, and any effort I would consider putting into anything would be in that direction. Is anyone actually doing anything to make this reality, or are we all just sitting around telling each other that someone else should do it, with no one accepting the challenge?

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@fairlanefastback

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fairlanefastback wrote: @number6 Does this mean that DiscreetFX made more money on yet another bounty that dosen't go to anyone and for which the interest on the money and where that is is in question?

Uhhh... how would number6 possibly have access to that kind of unfounded speculation?

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@Yo

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Yo wrote: @fairlanefastback Quote: fairlanefastback wrote: @number6 Does this mean that DiscreetFX made more money on yet another bounty that dosen't go to anyone and for which the interest on the money and where that is is in question? Uhhh... how would number6 possibly have access to that kind of unfounded speculation?

Well he linked to a thread that seemed to indicate a bounty was made that isn't going to its intended purpose. (Rogue for a PS3). I was unaware of the background on that. I'm asking as he obviously knows more about it than I do. At first glance it seems similar to the Amzilla bounty that has been sitting at over $10,000 for years and not seeming to go to anyone or to earn interest. Besides number6 seems to talk to folks on the side sometimes and seems to be more in the know than many, take for instance with ACK and Amiga. So you never know, it can't hurt to ask.

@DiscreetFX

Where is the interest earned on all this bounty money? Did you refund all the people for the PS3 for Rogue bounty?

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@fairlanefastback

It would be interesting to know exactly what happened with the PS3 bounty, but maybe you should start another thread as it has nothing to do with the Troika thing

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hi i would buy 1 but i have some ideas for you.

number 1 try and make it so we can install diferent spec cpus that would be nice

why not try and have apples cpu cards fit

why not slightly upgrade too AGP

why not just have a board with practically nothing just loads of pci slots to put cards in like sata cards ide card you got what i mean.

this way you can keep the cost of a motherboards right down and we can get cards that are compatible .

if you go to high end in this economy your die before you even start i know from talking to old amigans they would buy if it was cheap ,

the pegasos 2 was a good board at a good price i think i paid 350 pounds for it when new, and that was good at 1ghz .

maybe even try 2 cpus but work as 1 but clocked to 2ghz worth a try.

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@webhead

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why not try and have apples cpu cards fit

That made more sense when Apple used PowerPC. At this point, the SOC chips (built-in memory, PCI, etc features) are better ideas than aging separate CPU/Northbridge parts. IMHO.

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why not slightly upgrade too AGP

AGP will be somehow adapted to a PCI bus. Not worth it IMHO. Non-Amiga customers won't want AGP, they'll want PCI, don't kill opportunities outside of Amiga market... Either leave it PCI or use an SOC with PCI-Express.

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@Troika

First, let me say "Thank you" for at least keeping us in mind for new hardware. While the specs you hinted at are low-end, I would say YES to the price you're asking. Like so many others here, however, I would much prefer a High-end machine. 2GHz minimum, allow for up to 4GB of Ram, allow for a wider range of graphics cards ( Radeons with up to 1GB of ram maybe? ). I'd like to even use, and YES I know it's ancient technology, Amiga legacy disk drives - to make use of my 1K + disks that I still have. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks again, keep up the good work/fight !

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The best joke is that it IS the reference board. The editted layout to be more precise.

What's wrong with approaching Amiga design this way? If they can ge tthe gerbers, and maybe Freescale gives those away, it's easier to take a working dsign and remove things than it is to take a blank slate and add new things starting from nothing. Di I need a 5-port GBe switch on my Amiga? Not really. What's the Vitesse chip do? Do we need/want that? Do I want CompactPCI or local bus connectors? Not really. It probably doesn't hurt for them to be there, but if it's easy to remove, why pay for those unused parts?

We've all seen Troika's previous project announcements. We've all formed some opinions about them based on historic availability of these things. Regardless that some people here will call "yet another hoax" on this announcement as well, I would fully support Troika or anyone else's plan to take an existing board design and remove unwanted items from a production intended for Amiga users. I'm not really sure why editing the layout is even necessary in such a plan, perhaps there's a reason why unpopulated spaces would cause problems. If not, then I'd leave that routing in place just to save that effort.

You can get the gerbers as well as the CAD program layout file and schematics here Why would anyone not consider taking advantage of that?

Curious though that the MiniITX board in question, I looked up based on what I saw for the CPU part number/model in the picture above, this particular CPU doesnt' go to 1GHz.
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e300 core operating from 400 MHz up to 667 MHz (enhanced version of 603e core with larger caches)

Maybe I got the wrong one in my search on Freescale? I don' thave Allegro or a gerber viewer handy to check...

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I don't really trust your announcements. Why not finish the hardware first and then announce it. But if it actually were to be made i might buy one..

Thanks for the input. Athena has been for the most part, finished hardware, that’s why we are asking the community for their opinions via this poll.

@NutsAboutAmiga

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But first you need working systems that can Boot Linux or some thing;

Our Athena project is based on a very reliable reference design, and has been a working system running Linux from day one. It currently runs a variant of Debian Linux.


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We hope to in the future

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Ofcours I do want to see it happen and maybe Troika can also contact the MorphOS team... but what are the chances ?

Athena is designed with developer features. Our hope is that MorphOs and Os4x could operate on this new hardware and more ports could be done. The Morph team can contact us if they are serious.

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Our Athena project is based on a very reliable reference design, and has been a working system running Linux from day one. It currently runs a variant of Debian Linux.

Show us a Youtube video, otherwise you are in the waste bin along with ACK.

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@Troika

the biggest obstacle will be hyperion, they will never give you guys a licence when you compete with sam that acube are making...

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@Troika

I voted no because I would like something more powerful than my A1-XE G4/933. A less powerful alternative is the Sam which is available now.

I think you should go straight for hi-end to save time and effort. Something with 1GHz+, PCI-express, DDR(400+), SATA, USB2.0 etc..

First make another low-end board and then a few year later probably not make a high-end board because the sales was not very good, is not the ideal scenario I think. What do you think?

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@Troika
Is it possible to upload a video of it running linux?

People will remain very skeptical unless you actually show us something.

@Rob

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It's MicroATX Just like this Freescale reference board.

Nice job Rob! Yes this Freescale reference board was our starting point for Athena. Please keep in mind we are only showing “a sneak preview of the updated design”

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@d0c

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d0c wrote: @Troika the biggest obstacle will be hyperion, they will never give you guys a licence when you compete with sam that acube are making...

Depends on how much they would be willing to pay for the port i would guess. Unless Hyperion has some special deal with acube that prevents them from porting it.

@Troika

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Tomas wrote: @Troika Is it possible to upload a video of it running linux? People will remain very skeptical unless you actually show us something.

Yes put up or shut up.

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