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Nedfield
Posted on 5-Mar-2009 15:31:24
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Tulip Computers owns the Commodore 64 technology and since they changed their name to Nedfield, the German subsidiary was declared bankrupt:



Nedfield German subsidiary declared bankrupt

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@Chuckt

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Tulip Computers owns the Commodore 64 technology and since they changed their name to Nedfield, the German subsidiary was declared bankrupt


Had this for a while from about a week ago. Was trying to get an accurate translation.

October 26, 2010:
http://www.sprout.nl/69/11159/ict/computermerk-tulip-is-niet-meer.html

Basically the highlights:

The famous dutch computer brand Tulip, that in the last years led a scornfull existence as a partsuplier of questionable german PC's is now bust.
Terra computers, the company from Den Bosch that since 2006 took the legacy of tulip under control is bankrupt. According to the liquidator it is unclear if a restart can be made. There was a case of front knowledge in stock trading.
(Poster's note: I read this as "inside trading")
Since 2006 - the company was then in the hands of the now also bankrupt Nedfield - Tulip went further under the name Terra Computer - a PC-brand of a major german manufacterer that already assembled the tulip-gear for some years.

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Posted on 5-Nov-2010 20:03:52
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Famous Dutch brand... Well, to be honest, in all my live working with Computers and PC's I had the pleasure of seeing 1 tulip made Wintel.. Just one of many clone makers in the "good old days" and not a huge one even in here in the Netherlands.

Just another part in the (legal) mess that's the legacy of C=

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Just another part in the (legal) mess that's the legacy of C=


CIC and Tulip. Yes, it was and maybe still "is" special.

A bit of recent review:

Post #50

and Nedfield who seems to have ended postings in english some time ago, but continue in Dutch:

Commodore valuation

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@Thread

Yesterday I stumbled over an EBay auction, someone offered an C64 DTV for 499 Euro, I though he must be crazy so I went to Amazon and looked for the price of one, there where some new devices listed for over 530 Euros.

I knew they where sold rather cheap some years ago, so I got curious and found out what happened. The C64DTV is not in production any more. I thought they could sell this cheap little device for around 30Euros during the next years, they couldn't.

A remake of the Amiga in a Joystick would not sell better ... even a Natami might be limited to a small number of hardcore fans. ( But the Natami team knows this, they don't have considered an ASIC or mass production )


Back to C64 topic:

Other C64 retro computers that where announced lately might run into very similar troubles. Retro high-tech doesn't sell.

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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

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Re: Nedfield
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One thing a bit confusing in one of the news items;

from here

Computerleverancier Terra Computers Benelux uit Den Bosch is bankroet. Tot 2006 heette dit bedrijf Tulip Benelux. Curator Remco Michielsen van Van Iersel Luchtman Advocaten uit Uden kan nog niet aangeven of er een doorstart komt. Terra Computers BV is overigens niet failliet.

First they say they are "bankroet" next they say there aren't "failliet".

Still, bankroet and failliet have pretty much the same meaning afaik. Tho apparently (never knew that) bankroet is usually used when implying fraudulent actions caused this. (Bankroet and failliet lead to the same dutch wiki)

*edit... whoops... They mean Terra Benelux and Terra BV respectively.. (I "hated" how C= subsidiaries went kaput just before the collapse of C= itself and C= UK kept on trading.. so confusing back then )

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@Seer

Quote:
implying fraudulent actions


Despite a good translation, I had to make an assumption as well about what was said:

Quote:
There was a case of front knowledge in stock trading.
(Poster's note: I read this as "inside trading")


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@number6

That assumption is correct.

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@Seer

AW interview with Mark Elbertse? [evil grin]

Roundtable with Ben van Wijhe?

Translation of the Nedfield article I linked to above:

Quote:
Nedfield and Reunite Inc reach agreement about takeover interest in
Commodore International.

Amsterdam, 10 feb 2010
The liquidator in the bankruptcy of Nedfield Holding bv and the american
company Reunite
investments inc. have reached agreement about the takeover of 51% of the
regular outstanding shares in COmmodore International BV
for 300.000 euro. Reunite Inc. keeps already 49% of the regular
outstanding shares in Commodore International B.V.

For more information over bankruptcies of Nedfield N.V. and Nedfield
Holding B.V.(etc.)


Fairly accurate?

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AW interview with Mark Elbertse? [evil grin]


Neh, he doesn't seem that interesting;

http://markiiej.hyves.nl/profile/



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Roundtable with Ben van Wijhe?


With Mehdi Ali as guest ? (or should that be "expert guess talker"?)

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@Seer

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With Mehdi Ali as guest ? (or should that be "expert guess talker"?)


Heh. Give me a break. I have enough trouble following the current crop all over the globe.

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Give you a break ? How about poor us ? With all the links and info you're throwing at us :-p x-)

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@Seer

Good to see you again. We missed you, really we did.

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Thanks. Always a pleasure chatting with you !

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If you read Red's report on Amiga.org, they have no intention of buying Hyperion.

They do have a intention to, sometimes in the future, buy Amiga Inc and Commodore corp and unite them once again under the same banner.


source

Compared with the actual report from redrumloa:

Quote:
While Commodore USA is currently a licensee for the Commodore and Amiga name, the intention is to own these companies outright one day and to be a publicly traded company on a major exchange.


source

Jump to page 2 to see my post please, which follows:

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrumloa

If Commodore USA is able to execute on their current vision and suggested partners, things will get very interesting. While Commodore USA is currently a licensee for the Commodore and Amiga name, the intention is to own these companies outright one day and to be a publicly traded company on a major exchange.

My response:

Lofty goal indeed. I don't think Red or Dammy will be able to answer this one, but here's a question regardless:

The last news release from Asiarim indicating their intent regarding C=USA:
"The License Agreement is for an initial period of approximately 3 years, provided that certain financial and sales commitments are met, and can be renewed subject to fulfillment of certain sales targets and financial commitments."

Has Barry discussed with Ben van Wijhe the option of a buyout, given that the above indicates an entirely different plan from Asiarim's perspective in September, 2010.

source


So, just for the historical record...can you state for fact that the "intent" is in regard to CIC/Reunite Investments, Inc. and -not- Commodore, which gives the reader an entirely different impression?

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Apparently, Commodore (parent company) is now under new management.

August 2, 2011:

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ASIARIM CORPORATION (OTC BQ: ARMC US) announced today that its Board of Directors (the "Board") accepted the resignations of Mr. Te Hwai Ho ("Mr. Ho"), Mr. Donald So Yu Ruan ("Mr. Ruan") and of Ben van Wijhe ("Mr. Van Wijhe") as directors of the corporation with effect from July 21, 2011, July 21, 2011 and July 23, 2011 respectively. Mr. Ho, Mr. Ruan and Mr. Van Wijhe were replaced as officers of the corporation.


source

Just a note about the new technology referred to in today's news, since the news only refers to "patented video compression."

Quote:
This video compression technology based on wavelet algorithms is able to dramatically reduce any type of video content or live stream including those already pre-compressed with any CODEC without loss of video quality.


earlier source

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Hold on.. wavelet compression?.. didnt Maplin have a PCI board with that chip set on many years ago, possibly the 90s?

They said instead of the 150 to 1 ratio fro MPEG, this card could handle 450 to 1, and other such ideas.

Cant remember theprice, or where I might have the web page or mag page stored. 8(

I thought wavelet was just full FT anyway, storing the phase offsets per sample as well as the amplitude, instead of just the amplitude as DCT?

After seeing QB64 do a Million point transform in under 30 seconds on a 1.6 Ghz single core, I still would like to know whats the compression ratio for the Entire image, if instead of 8*8, 16*16 macroblocks etc.

Also.. what about the Hilbert curve prescan Ive been looking at? Turn your n dimentional data array into a fractal linear array.

Stuff infinities.

Wonder if they spotted the expired patent and thought, that looks good, well have it?

Now.. how do I load a non specific binary file into an array again?

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@RodTerl

You are correct about this not being "new".
I had people rave to me 15 years ago about this magic.
Perhaps computing power to be truly efficient was the holdup at that time?

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@thread

This was posted a few days after the initial announcement.
There's a bit more detail about the resignations at Commodore and the history of the new officers for those trying to follow this.

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110804/armc.pk8-k.html

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