@utri007

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All 3 developers has done lots of work for aros. Them and all 6 active users are going to be really disapointed if you vote wrong

AROS-Exec - 1148 members
Amigans.net - 1190 members
MorphZone - couldn't find a number

Multi-platform:
AmigaWorld.net - 4391 members
Amiga.org - 7063 members

Interesting stuff and promising for AROS. OS4Depot has 5 times the amount of apps as AROS-Archives though. I hope one day that will change.

Chris

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I voted yes and killer application. But as @BigBentheAussie explained, this will not happen soon.

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Amiga users of all hardware platforms are stubborn in their allegiances

In near future, os4 users will definitelly not jump to aros, due to this 'allegiance' to both hw and s/w. But in long run, when aros become more usable, i think it will hit sam/mini/x1000 sales pretty much.

Let's face it: hardly anyone of us can use amiga as primary system. From my POV, i miss PHPEd, sqlYog, wamp with php5.3.0 and Firefox with firebug plugin. Developers that we expect also miss proper development software they are used to have.

AROS will attract NEW users, way faster than os4/mos. Just because it is cheap, some win/linux developer MIGHT try it and convert his software to aros. He will NOT give $700 for a new toy.

Don't foget; we are not getting younger, we need new freaks that like to do crazy things.

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While i really hate java software (slowest emulator i have ever seen), this might give us more software. Is there any chance of having one? I remember announcment of it few years ago, but became vaporware.
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@Srbin

I agree partially, but it's up to Hyperion to react to the competition. There's plenty of major work needed to modernise AmigaOS and if they do it, they'll keep their lead. if AROS continues to catch up the way it is now, it might hurt sales of PPC hardware.

I'd miss many of the same things as you. I tend to use the WebKit JavaScript debugging tools over Firebug, but I like Firefox's Web Developer Toolbar. I could get by with a simpler editor, but I don't see a good FTP/SFTP app on Amiga/clones. I need something like AAMP. I'd miss Photoshop on any platform it didn't run on.

Not really interested in Java - Eclipse would be great for Android development, but that's yet more porting and I wouldn't even go there. I'm impressed by Haiku's QT port though, and as I've said before, that would be my choice.

Chris

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No.

AROS is very, very, good. Even great.

However, something is missing, and it's not a 'killer app' .

Umph, something.

@amitv
Nope.. I dont see why they cant both exist alongside each other. I think however some people who feel they belong in one camp is becoming a bit of menace to both the community and OS4, but those people are luckily in the minority.

@Tomas

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some people who feel they belong in one camp is becoming a bit of menace to both the community and OS4

I don't really get what you're saying. AROS users who think their choice is as "Amiga" as any other option are somehow menace? And out of all options AROS guys are like mutated Lennon, sitting around singing "Imagine".

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@clebin

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clebin wrote: I agree partially, but it's up to Hyperion to react to the competition. There's plenty of major work needed to modernise AmigaOS and if they do it, they'll keep their lead. if AROS continues to catch up the way it is now, it might hurt sales of PPC hardware.

If it was for a modernised AmigaOS most people here would run MorphOS.

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@Arko

I take your point, but obviously people do run MorphOS who'd be running AmigaOS otherwise. AROS also has the advantage of cheaper and more powerful hardware.

I'm not saying everyone will flock to AROS, but in a market of this size, every customer is significant. Every developer, even more so.

Chris

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@Kronos
I vote yes. This is the most pointless poll yet!

@persia

Even more pointless than the other poll on the homepage? I seriously doubt that!

Chirs

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@BigBentheAussie

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BigBentheAussie wrote: Just how many X1000 sales do you think there will be? 2000? 5,000? I'll give the X1000 the benefit of the doubt and even say 10,000.

Maybe 300 in the first 3 month, maybe 500 in one year ... I doubt they will sell more then there where A1 and they have the Sam460 as competitor, a system that might be nearly as fast as the A1

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I'm not saying everyone will flock to AROS, but in a market of this size, every customer is significant. Every developer, even more so.

What might be in 3 years ?

AROS will not only runs on 64 bit it will have an emulation for the 32Bit API ?
MorphOs will have jumped to x86 ?
And the X1000 users will tell us therir hardware could have saved Commodore ?

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AROS-Exec - 1148 members Amigans.net - 1190 members MorphZone - couldn't find a number Multi-platform: AmigaWorld.net - 4391 members Amiga.org - 7063 members

Consider that Amigans.net performs HEAVY cleaning of inactive accounts very often (with Amiga.org and Amigaworld that probably don't do that at all...).

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@Arko

I hope you're right about AROS 64-bit. It deserved so much more attention than it got - hopefully the 64-bit version of Broadway will change all that!

Chris

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@amitv

Not more threat then Windows is...

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@DAX

I'm not reading too much into those numbers - just that AROS has a healthy following these days.

The AROS-Exec front-page is interesting. A few years ago, there were threads on the front-page that hadn't been active in weeks. Nowadays, it never stretches back more than a day and it's not unusual to see all the threads updated in that past 12 hours. That's encouraging.

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@Arko
Generally, I have no opinions about AROS or MOS. They are
not my cup of tea. So the following is a reply to Arko.
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Arko wrote: What might be in 3 years ? AROS will not only runs on 64 bit it will have an emulation for the 32Bit API ?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in 3 years AROS will be emulating Amiga
on a 128 bit system emulating a 32bit API in a 64 bit emulated shell
running in a virtual machine under windows.
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MorphOs will have jumped to x86 ?

Uh huh, And morphos will be renamed MorpharOS.
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And the X1000 users will tell us therir hardware could have saved Commodore ?

And the X2000 users wouldn't even try to tell you the time of day.

@clebin

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The AROS-Exec front-page is interesting. A few years ago, there were threads on the front-page that hadn't been active in weeks. Nowadays, it never stretches back more than a day and it's not unusual to see all the threads updated in that past 12 hours.

Yup. And that's not all, probably some Aros fans may participate more in AW.net than aros-exec. Well, at least I do

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@Arko

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Arko wrote: @clebin Quote: I'm not saying everyone will flock to AROS, but in a market of this size, every customer is significant. Every developer, even more so. What might be in 3 years ? AROS will not only runs on 64 bit it will have an emulation for the 32Bit API ? MorphOs will have jumped to x86 ? And the X1000 users will tell us therir hardware could have saved Commodore ?

In 3 years we also have

X2000
X3000
X4000

@Mechanic

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in 3 years AROS will be emulating Amiga on a 128 bit system emulating a 32bit API in a 64 bit emulated shell running in a virtual machine under windows.

Only AROS makes it possible.
Of course there will also be a native mode.

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MorphOs will have jumped to x86 ? >>> Uh huh, And morphos will be renamed MorpharOS.

Well, MorphOS really would have to morph to be on x86.

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And the X2000 users wouldn't even try to tell you the time of day.

Why? Broken clocks?
That'll teach them not to plug things into the Xena port the wrong way.
Honestly, it's a joke...have a sense of humour guys.

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