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serk118
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Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 18:04:10
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 21:48:46
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You (We) will have to wait until the moment that Amiga Inc releases the next gen amiga announced in 2007. It should come bundled with OS5. _________________ Vanilla A500 NOS A1200 (Powered by V1200, CoffinOS r.58) PowerMac beast, MorphOS 3.15 (registered) |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 21:51:36
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Good one!!! Like question, like answer..... |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 22:01:55
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Heh. Well, at least the "Bill" part fits (DiscreetFX).
Last post I can find from Bill Panagouleas on this is April, 2007: Quote:
Sorry I missed your e-mail Troels, my spam filter does flag the wrong messages sometimes. AmiZilla funds are safe and sound, the film is financed by an investor and me working 80+ hours a week. $10,000 is way to little money to make a quality movie, if the film does well though I will be pumping even more money into AmiZilla. Remember over $6000 of the funds are from me and an ex-Netscape executive. If you want a status of the AmiZilla project though I'm not the one to ask as I don't do any coding for it. I am only the sponsor of the contest. Ants is your man for status updates. |
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[Poll] Stop Amizilla bounty in favour of others? Which contains additional info current as of May, 2009.
@Ants last login on AW Quote:
Currently it looks like OWB, Netsurf, and Merlin as the CSS browsers in development.
Edited: Netscape to Netsurf. lol.
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Last edited by number6 on 06-Jul-2009 at 12:22 AM. Last edited by number6 on 05-Jul-2009 at 10:05 PM.
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 22:56:40
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 22:58:06
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 5-Jul-2009 23:09:31
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i had to say i have try`ed netsurf-m68k.lha a CSS browsers via WinUAE and its Faaast..
so even AmigaOS 4.0 with sam dont get to see FireFoxy & it will be slow with current sams speed lol...
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 0:44:51
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Should have done an update (or non-update as it were), but been too busy with other things... We had one guy looking at compiling NSPR, but haven't heard from him in a while. Our problem is that no programmer with enough experience wants to work on the AmiZilla project- they'll spend time on OWB, Sputnik, etc but never AmiZilla.
Why? Maybe because Firefox is too difficult to get to run well on Amiga OSes, maybe because it's slow and resource hungry compared to a WebKit based solution, or (at least initially) because a cross-platform solution wasn't wanted from a OS competition point of view (by either camp)- I don't know, you'd have to ask them. IMO OWB would be a possible candidate for the AmiZilla bounty- but have never got any reply from the author on the subject. We even talked on Amigaworld about splitting the bounty into 4- OS3, OS4, MOS and AROS, to make this easier, but again nothing.
I may have time in a month or so, to have a go at compiling the NSPR (main OS abstraction layer needed for porting). Note: X, GTK/GDK, GLib etc have been ported to OS3, so the GUI work would be straight forward to initially get it running on GTK. I have had a look through the Firefox3 code- and it shouldn't be hard to copy work already done over to it- the code structure has been improved a lot in V3! But I'd start by getting the old code compiling first, before trying to complicate things!
-Ants AmiZilla Coordinator
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 1:45:15
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 4:27:40
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Fennec, may be easier to port. and it still is firefox... |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 6:35:47
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Fast? Firefox is fast? Have you tried Opera to have a comparison between them? I have been using Opera as my main browser (along with OWB :P) for more than 3 years. I remember that when I was preparing my final essay for my University, Opera for more than six months was booting and running with over 33 tabs open. It never crashed, it was faster than ANY other browser on the PC (and I have used from Flock to FF 2 to 3.5, IE 6, 7 & 8, Chrome, Netsurf and others) and the consumption of memory was always lower than all the above under heavy use and browsing hrough the internet. Hell, even OWB on my OS4 SamEp is faster than FF on my brand new dual core 32bit Vista PC. _________________
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 6:57:21
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| DiscreetFx should use the money to HIRE a couple of developers to do the job, instead of waiting endlesly for volunteers to pick it up. I am sure that If progress were made, more money would be donated too. |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 7:06:01
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Have you tried the latest version of Firefox (i.e., version 3.5)? It is noticeably faster than the previous version. I've tried Opera, but never used it much because I encountered various quirks that annoyed me; some things just didn't quite work right.
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 7:26:14
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Turrican wrote: DiscreetFx should use the money to HIRE a couple of developers to do the job, instead of waiting endlesly for volunteers to pick it up. I am sure that If progress were made, more money would be donated too. |
As the bounty currently stands, you could get 11 weeks out of a programmer, if you're lucky, so he/she had better know what he/she's doing (i.e., are familiar with Amiga OS, Firefox code, etc.). For that amount developers who know what they're doing are hard to find. Added to that, it's not really fair on anyone who has done work for free to date.
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 8:28:11
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Hans wrote: @Cool_amigaN
Have you tried the latest version of Firefox (i.e., version 3.5)? It is noticeably faster than the previous version. I've tried Opera, but never used it much because I encountered various quirks that annoyed me; some things just didn't quite work right.
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FF 3.5 only under Linux and it seemed to me that it was even slower than 3.0 on Windows! I have stopped bothering about FF for another reason too, the damn smooth scroll on webpages with Opera. It just takes web browsing to another so pleasant level that I cannot even think how to browse with another browser on my PCs. But what did go wrong with Opera for you?
Anyway, my opinion regarding the thread is to pass the bounty to currently develepoers that help our community. To the devs of OWB, Netsurf and Merlin. Imo split the bounty to 50% for OWB, 40% for Netsurf and 10% for Merlin._________________
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 8:52:10
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We had one guy looking at compiling NSPR, but haven't heard from him in a while. Our problem is that no programmer with enough experience wants to work on the AmiZilla project- they'll spend time on OWB, Sputnik, etc but never AmiZilla.
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Was the guy Afxgroup? He has been working on Firefox for some months, and I seem to remember that he has managed to port NSPR.
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 9:59:31
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Hey friend Opera is a very bad under Windows Vista, so that I used in my NoteBook and crashed my computer without that I could shutdown it, I have had that off the computer the bad way, and the result Opera dammage the hard disk with Vista and now my NoteBook is more death than alive, Opera is a bomb and have problems showing tables and javascript effects, Firefox is better. |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 10:00:37
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Good question, because Amizilla had a good pet. |
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 10:22:41
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Hey friend Opera is a very bad under Windows Vista, so that I used in my NoteBook and crashed my computer without that I could shutdown it, I have had that off the computer the bad way, and the result Opera dammage the hard disk with Vista and now my NoteBook is more death than alive, Opera is a bomb and have problems showing tables and javascript effects, Firefox is better. |
I can pretty much guarantee 100% that it was not Opera's fault or even related to Opera.
I personally use Chrome._________________
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Re: Are we going to see Amizilla soon? Posted on 6-Jul-2009 11:19:10
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| is opera open source by now or what relevance has the speed and relability of this browser as comparing to ff for the amiga scene?
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