@jkirk
Unless your talking about something I've never heard of, x64 means x86-64.

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@itix

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I think you are correct: "I wouldn't call it a sandbox, rather a virtual environment. The old system will run in its own address space as a separate task. It's not like a UAE or anything like that. It might or might not be able to become aware of the outside world, we still need to clear up the details."

Oh ! I remembered him talking of "chinese wall" rather than "sandbox" but you found a quote where his says "virtual environment". So we don't actually know which will be it and like he says "we still need to clear up the details" so it could be anything. (I have to check again someday what difference those 3 have.)

@cv643d
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imagine all kinds of kickass cool in a screenblanker and it is it

Don't know if I've seen anything "leaves blowing around" on any platform so I don't know what to think.

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Ugh, I cant find the movie of MorphOS on youtube of that screenblanker

Maybe somebody could do it (such video) again then. (It can't be that hard to start a screenblanker and start filming

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Not sure about a ‘secret project’, but if I were them I’d be trying to move AmigaOS forward by doing some like this.

1) Release 4.1 final on the SAM440 which would include:

• All of the basic bugs fixed
• Full use of the HW, eg USB 2.0 on SAM440
• Extra PCI graphics drivers

2) Get the new SAM Dev boards (eg 460GTx) early and start work on an Amiga OS 4.2 version. OS 4.2 would run on all existing platforms and would include (at least):

• Memory protection
• Full OpenGL support (eg 3.1)

3) When ACube release the next SAM, bundle it with a (final) version of OS 4.2 that fully supports the HW.

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@ALL

Most Ambitious Project Of Amiga Community :

Making this thread the longest thread of all :)

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@logicalheart

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logicalheart wrote: @jkirk Unless your talking about something I've never heard of, x64 means x86-64.

but you stated x86 not x86-64. x86 is 32 bit x64 is 64bit extensions based off the x86 platform.

besides point stands this is a bs thread so anything is game for it.

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@jkirk

Well its the biggest BS Thread ive seen

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This is pathetic. I'm going to try Amigans.net to see if it is any better over there.

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@logicalheart

Well it's pretty easy to avoid threads like this so I fail to see the problem.

A lot of people like to speculate, perhaps we should even make a competition to see who gets closest to guessing what Hyperion is working on.

Amigans.net is a great community site though, especially for OS4 specific stuff

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Could that most ambitious project maybe be an entire rewrite of the Workbench?

It just crossed my mind that it was once said that Workbench was long due an update. Besides, during the course of OS4's developement, Workbench was only minimally updated.

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@OldFart

But the thing is, a Workbench update really isn't as big a task as creating 4.0. If Hyperion's claim is correct, this project needs to be *bigger* (more ambitious) than OS4.0

Does make you wonder...

I hope that we will find out what is that at Amiwest show time...

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@logicalheart

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logicalheart wrote: @Lou Quote: Like - seriously! Did you read what I wrote? Yes he did, and so did I. His response was appropriate. Your post was just an excuse to promote the "x86" platform.

No. Infact Rogue called AMD Athlon-64 X2 his "precious" which is what led to my posulation.

I have never promoted any *86* 32/64 bit platform. I have promoted Nintendo hardware which is quite PPC-based. Check your facts.

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Edit:

After reading the OSNews review of 4.1, I would have to agree with the author on the critisisms of Workbench. The makes me wonder if updating Workbench is their most ambitious project to date... Though I still wouldn't complain about a SAM/A1/Pegasus emulation layer for PearPPC allowing me to purchase and install OS4.1 on hardware I already own.

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@Lou

Maybe building a NatamiOS?

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Check my Amiga gameplays (ITA)!

Porting to ARM would be a very productive move, I think.

everyone knows it's a port of os4.1 to a PDA ... like this one here

or Maybe it's a cell phone os here

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everyone knows retro is in

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Porting to ARM would be a very productive move, I think.

Well me not so sure about that but if they port os4.0 to x86 that will sort hardware problem
for good and we amiga community will grow and WILLGROW but if we stick to dead ppc than no x86 user will never sell x86 board and buy ppc try are lovely AmigaOS4.0 so best thing to get amiga os to run on x86 so people can install os4.0 to x86 and feel the real power of os4.0.

1.port amiga os 4.0 to x86

2.port firefox as browser.

3.java.

3.openoffice.

4.flash player

with them new user will feel home and wont be limited to this or that.
and they dont have to buy ppc sam or anything else if amiga gives what they want than thats what anyone want from an os and the hw.

when new user comes why would he/she have to run windoz to surf the net if amigans can have 1/2/3/4 than we would not need to use windoz or others at all..

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@Al4

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Al4 wrote: Porting to ARM would be a very productive move, I think.

I agree, and I believe the only one they haven't directly ruled out at the moment as being behind the recent announcement of an announcement later this year.

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@terminills

That's not a PDA, it's just a mass storage device :)

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