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Fransexy 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:31:08
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What Zorro card would be most fun to put into the Xorro slot?


I only think in two zorro cards that have no equivalent supported PCI cards: Videotoaster (or any other non linear video editing card) and bridgeboards

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tiffers 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:32:41
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@Thread

Looking closely at the Xorro slot, there's a short segment and a longer segment. This doesn't match with actual Zorro cards does it? (I've never had one).

The closest thing I can find is the Zorro IV board, which seems to have a connector on the top to hook onto the A1200 CPU / expansion edge connector.

Could this board have the capability of piggy backing an A1200 board via the Xorro slot for legacy stuff? Just like the original AmigaOne design which was slowly progressing when I gave up on Amigas back around 1996?

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
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@Chain-Q

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I'd say, the CPU issue is solved


uh urrr! (supposed to be a wrong answer sound!)

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mihcael 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:34:36
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@tiffers

the xorro is inline with a PCIe x1 slot as stated by rogue

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BinoX 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:35:57
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@Salup

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Salup wrote:
@Rogue

This is not really my field but doesn't this imply that maybe we are looking at a 64-bit AmigaOS? Isn't 4 gigs the maximum amount of memory that can be allocated in a a 32-bit system?


That's not 100% accurate :)

You can do some clever stuff to make more ram available under 32bit systems.
if I remember rightly there's 2 ways of doing this (on intel architectures anyway)

The first is PSE (Page Size Extension) in which you had to do a buffer copy to anything above the 4GB limit
The other is PAE mode. PAE maps up to 64 GB of physical memory into a 32-bit virtual address space using either 4-KB or 2-MB pages
(32bit Windows Server Enterprise uses at least one of these methods)

I think those are processor, and maybe chipset, dependent though and I dunno if any PPC chips/systems support that.

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Amiga_3k 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:36:21
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@Rogue

Very kind of you to check, and answer .

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tiffers 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:37:27
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@mihcael

What does that mean? "inline with"

The same length as? Using the same data lanes as? physically compatible to?

Seems I'm not as much of a hardware junkie as I thought I was.

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divina 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:37:43
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@Rogue

Hi,

It' s a CPU Powerpc PA6T-1682-a right ?
Tell me I have won an AmigaOne Power X this time

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tomazkid 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:38:40
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@Tommo1975

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Timberwolf would take care of the browser situation (in that OWB is good, but not a name that non Amiga people would recognise) so we know that'll soon be sorted.


Seriously, had you heard of Timberwolf before the first Amiga screenshots?


Better name a browser Amiga Explorer, oh wait, that is already taken

Price will be interesting, but recon it has to be something like "the most expensive SAM + XXX¤ = price ", so quite expensive.

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BigBentheAussie 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:39:19
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Quote:

TrevorDick wrote:
@Chain-Q

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I'd say, the CPU issue is solved


uh urrr! (supposed to be a wrong answer sound!)

TrevorD

Ok.... So not a Titan processor then, which is what Chain-Q specified.
I think we have established that TrevorDick knows.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
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@TrevorDick
Well, that's too bad, as only the Titan and Freescale's e600 core based SoCs (8641D, anyone?) are interresting for this market. The rest are too weak, simply, to make up a decent desktop computer (IMO). Of course, there's always a third possiblity with some Cell based thingie, but i'd say that could hardly fit into 20W.

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Hondo 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:40:33
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Damn! - can't wait for the next clue...and the next.....and the

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Thom_Holwerda 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:41:48
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@Chain-Q

...or, Trevor is just pulling your leg :).

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BigBentheAussie 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:43:22
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I still think its either the PPC460GTx or the PPC460SX from Applied Micro.
Titan was probably too recently announced to have been used anyway.

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mihcael 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:44:48
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@tiffers

"Inline" means physical in a line.

Look at the last (on the right) black slots, there is a small one followed by the xorro one

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tiffers 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:47:34
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@mihcael

Actually the short segment looks exactly like a PCIe 1x slot.

I'm sticking to my story it's a 'bridge' of some sort.

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Chain-Q 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:47:44
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@Thom_Holwerda
Yeah, that thought crossed my mind. Especially, if you consider, that Hyperion was actually one of the Titan gods. :) And Eon also means Age. So there's the the Golden Age, which the Titans ruled in...

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:47:46
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@tomazkid

Obviously not!

However, at the end of the day it'll look like Firefox, act like Firefox, have the same functionality as Firefox, have a logo similair to Firefox (presumably), so for all intents and purposes it'll be Firefox

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NEO 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:47:54
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I can't really help that I'm thinking "why don't they go with mainstream hardware if this now is the new beginning"... =/ Why complicate it so much. If they want some proprietary properties left then walk the apple route and use standard HW and put it together in a shiny, cute and fancy package. It opens up soooo many more doors.

I'm sorry. I love that there's a new beginning and so but from what we have guessed and put together it already feels a bit old? SATA3, USB3 and FW1600 is already here so a new system should have something like that? =/ This just feels like new old hardware to me. =/

Sorry for bringing a bit of negativity to the table. But that's just how I feel.

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gregthecanuck 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com?
Posted on 3-Jan-2010 13:47:54
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BigBentheAussie wrote:
I still think its either the PPC460GTx or the PPC460SX from Applied Micro.
Titan was probably too recently announced to have been used anyway.

Not possible. Not enough cores, memory controllers or PCI-Express lanes.

And not ambitious enough IMO.

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