@diezi7

Here's my guess:

1. X is for Amiga OS5 based on Unix / Linux
2. Motherboard with custom chipsets via PCI-X
3. Cell Processor (like the one on the PS3)
(based on the file: http://a-eon.com/gfx/hidden.png)

What's so cool:
1. An X based OS will bring us many software options quickly (Open Office, Blender 3D, Gimp, etc), which would place Amiga OS in line with other platforms.
2. An X based OS already has tons of support for lots of hardware.
3. Cell Processors are amazingly fast and efficient.

What's still needed:
1. A kick*ss breakthrough computing invention that places Amiga ahead (not in line) of the competition (namely Win and Mac). Remember how ONLY AMIGA could do great video and multimedia back in the days? That's what I mean.

2. Us, buying this great computer and spreading the word

My two cents!

Mauricio

Xena - Xorro. Now that's what I'm talking about. AMIGA !

Wow, will I finally be able to change my down-in-the-mouth signature. I
hate that thing.

I wonder if it would be possible to run 2 copies of AOS on a dual(multi)
core processor in a co-operative way. Each having it's own RAM and being
able to share data to/from an external source(s)? Probably would
need dual interconnected busses.


Sure looks good. Power, and a future.

P.S. I've spent more time here in the past few days then in the past 6 months.

I am refreshing the thread every five minutes, I cannot wait until everything is reveled!

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@Mechanic

MPC864x
"The problems associated with the bandwidth-constrained external MPX bus interface found on the 74xx series are relieved with single (MPC8641) or dual (MPC8641D) e600 cores, faster system interface via RapidIO, dual x8 PCI Express and an on-die 667 MHz MPX interconnect between I/O, the cores, and dual 64-bit DDR2-memory controllers (with ECC). The product also features four on-chip Gigabit ethernet controllers with TCP/UDP offloading features. The dual core MPC8641D has support for asymmetric multiprocessing, which enables two operating systems to run on the same device simultaneously, sharing resources but largely unaware of each other."

I think this might deliver a way to sandbox AOS4 and 68k apps easily:
"two operating systems to run on the same device simultaneously"

So it could run linux and aos4 at the same time.
It could also run AROS or AOS5 and AOS4 at the same time.
Or two copies of AOS4.
Or AMP with one AOS4+WarpUP2.

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@clusteruk

Quote:

After all this hype it better be good

I agree

TrevorD

PS I still like my iMica Atom & Pro

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My thought's on the Xorro slot in line with the PCI-E 1x slot:

Could it be some sort of bridgeboard that would allow support for old 68k Amiga software in OS 4.x (provided the Xorro is connected to Xena)??

I.E. it would provide connectivity between the emulated chipset on Xena (if that's what Xena does) and the main busses on the motherboard, in much the same way as the A4000 Mediator bridgeboard provides connectivity between the A4000 motherboard and the Mediator PCI board.

For the CPU, my guess is the Freescale MPC8641D as others have already speculated.
I found a PDF of what the dual core MPC8641 can do here: PDF Download
Page 4 of the PDF has a schematic of the MPC8641D's capabilities.

Cheers,
Graham C

(Edit for grammar and extra info)

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@mdelaorta

>Here's my guess:
>1. X is for Amiga OS5 based on Unix / Linux
>2. Motherboard with custom chipsets via PCI-X
>3. Cell Processor (like the one on the PS3)
(>based on the file: http://a-eon.com/gfx/hidden.png)

Taking those facts for granted, we could be talking of a
revolution in Amiga computing.

Humm, sounds like excellent idea
The hidden.png shows a kinda linux tasks list, there's a bash,
8 tasks as 8 Cell Cores?
Could be played PS3 games? jojojojo
AmigaOS5-X

This makes me remind that CU Amiga Magazine number:
"Amiga, Drops the Bombshell".

BTW, where are you Don Mauricio?

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@mdelaorta
> 1. X is for Amiga OS5 based on Unix / Linux

this is my tip too, because colours of X = colours of Linux penguin ;)

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@KimmoK
Thanx for the info.
Quote:

KimmoK wrote: @Mechanic MPC864x I think this might deliver a way to sandbox AOS4 and 68k apps easily: "two operating systems to run on the same device simultaneously" So it could run linux and aos4 at the same time. It could also run AROS or AOS5 and AOS4 at the same time. Or two copies of AOS4. Or AMP with one AOS4+WarpUP2.

It's nice to see possibilites to dreams.

@kedar
Good guessing, same Tux colours

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@steril606
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And you'd need XDR-Memory for CELL BE to work, isn't it?

if its a cell it would be the PowerXCell 8i. it uses ddr2 and i guess the name suits the X hint.

/stone

mMM... nice thought but rather unlikely. *nix means that they have to open up a lot of the code and in the end that means that it will be ported to every device on the planet. Which I would love. But then it wouldn't really make sense to not start of with a vanilla Intel/AMD proc and generic hardware from the first place.

And running nix on anything else then standard processor means that someone have to port all the apps over. Not something that is done over a night, look at the PS3...


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mdelaorta wrote: @diezi7 Here's my guess: 1. X is for Amiga OS5 based on Unix / Linux 2. Motherboard with custom chipsets via PCI-X 3. Cell Processor (like the one on the PS3) (based on the file: http://a-eon.com/gfx/hidden.png) What's so cool: 1. An X based OS will bring us many software options quickly (Open Office, Blender 3D, Gimp, etc), which would place Amiga OS in line with other platforms. 2. An X based OS already has tons of support for lots of hardware. 3. Cell Processors are amazingly fast and efficient. What's still needed: 1. A kick*ss breakthrough computing invention that places Amiga ahead (not in line) of the competition (namely Win and Mac). Remember how ONLY AMIGA could do great video and multimedia back in the days? That's what I mean. 2. Us, buying this great computer and spreading the word My two cents! Mauricio

@stone

Also, Xenon CPU would be nice...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

But the CPU does not look like Xenon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KL_Microsoft_XBOX_380_CPU_ES.jpg

But how does PowerXCell look like?
found a pic: http://inside.hlrs.de/images/autumn02_08/A14_1.JPG so, in theory ...

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@Cooooool!

I've had this picture set to my wallpaper since yesterday (found it on the server, but didn't want to ruin the timetable ).

I'm looking forward to getting the specs confirmed, but in the meantime, here are my brainfarts:

The RAM configuration suggests dual channel to me. Although 4GB address space is available to 32-bit cpus, (as has been discussed many times) only around 1.8GB is available to AmigaOS (rest taken up by i/o, device addresssing etc).
To need 4 ram slots strongly suggests 64-bit - will be interesting to see how this plays out (eg 32-bit 0S4.1.x sandboxed in first 1.8GB address space, hosted in OS4.2 with access to 64-bit address space?

The multi-core nature seems to be more-or-less confirmed - again I'm looking forward to seeing how this is implemented (although EDF has been hinted at), and curious what the performance gain will be.

Thank goodness all those crappy PS2/serial/parallel ports are gone! If they're still needed for debug-logs, etc they should be left as headers on the motherboard - the average user doesn't need the real estate taken up on the ATX panel.

The info about Xena is tantalizing (thanks guys, just what I need - more anticipation!). I'd love to see a classic-hardware-emulation card being created for this (Natami/clone-A), but I sincerely hope that hardware emulation of classics will NOT be on-board the motherboard - why bother given the increased development costs/time that would bring?
In fact, I suspect this is what Xena is - a specialised bus for allowing additional CPU/chipset boards to be used for hardware emulation, allowing access to the motherboard resources (pci-bus, memory).

4 x SATA - Thanks guys, good to see you're dropping PATA - the real-estate costs are ridiculous in this day and age (motherboard space and cabling).

The audio is perhaps one of the most interesting parts - optical out and a 5.1 (or even 7.1?) terminal block. I can't believe no-one has mentioned this yet! Suggestive of surround-sound on the Amiga (dependent on AHI being updated to handle 5.1/7.1).

Gigabit ethernet will be a blessing, if indeed that is what is included.

There are a lot of headers towards the "front edge" of the board - front audio? front USB? front panel connectors? Well, that accounts for maybe half of them. Option jumpers maybe? Will have to wait to find out...

The large (non-hidden) chip behind the PCI-Ex16 slot has got me confused though.
A southbridge or something (but I would expect that to be integrated into the cpu).
Surely not a pci controller (PCI-X is directly routed to the CPU)
Looks way too big for a SATA controller.
A PCI-X - PCI bridge maybe?
Not a GPU (no video out ports)

I like the overall design philosophy - keep it simple, stupid!
Looking at the teaser, the motherboard design is kept as simple as possible (ie no on-board video, no legacy i/o (except probably a serial header).

Everything else seems to be provided through expansion slots: Video, etc

I like it

@Rogue

You weren't kidding about not being disappointed by the specs, and we haven't even got them yet!

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@KimmoK
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Also, Xenon CPU would be nice...

i dont really agree. its dated and limited- but its not an option regardlessly as its owned by microsoft.

/stone

AmigaOS 5? But please wait for AmigaOS 4.1.1 before

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@NEO

>mMM... nice thought but rather unlikely. *nix means that they have to open up a lot of the code >and in the end that means that it will be ported to every device on the planet.

MacOSX is Unix based, and no open sourced.

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