@all

By the way I just got an Ace Aspire 150, all that money spent on drivers supporting HDAudio and now I can use it on my new Aros Netbook. Got it with 8hr battery too.



Sorry did I go off thread there, it can do video too.

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@clusteruk

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clusteruk wrote: @all By the way I just got an Ace Aspire 150, all that money spent on drivers supporting HDAudio and now I can use it on my new Aros Netbook. Sorry did I go if thread there, it can do video too.

So, are you enjoying your brand new 21st century's A1200?

@paolone

Sure am and it is gourgous, video anyone.

Oh and I consider it the new iMica Atom.

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@clusteruk

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Sorry did I go off thread there, it can do video too.

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@nikosidis

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use it with amiga or morphos then if they have drivers!! They don't right!!

MorphOS and Amiga OS 4 work on computers other than PCs.
And they are compatible with the Amiga OS 3.

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This is exactly the stupid comments I don't like.

Love you too.

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Why don't you leave amigaworld and go to pcworld.

AROS is a system for the PC.

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Find something better to do.

You're funny.

@phase5fan

I am now the deleriously happy owner of a true Amiga netbook, something that I have dreamed about for over twenty years.

As we always used to say, only Aros makes it possible.

Sorry Amiga

edit: typing this from Icaros on my iMica Atom Netbook (sorry Acer Aspire One 150)

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phase5fan wrote: AROS is a system for the PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrtDK5UpnI

You see, AROS isn't tied to one platform.

@clusteruk

How about a group hug guys we are all Amigan's, now is that not better.

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@clusteruk

I can't wait for a video from you about the Aspire One 150 running Icaros.

@paolone

I am guessing it will not be long. This is such a cool little netbook, however, the 8 hour battery is a bit on the heavy side but then who cares.

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So as you can see, AROS doesn't need to be rewritten from the ground up to support those features. It really is a question of priorities right now, MP and SMP are not high priorities as there are more important features to work on, though you're welcome to start coding if you believe they are.

While there might be more important things my only wish is that these priorities takes SMP into considerations so that they don't have to be rebuilt nor hinders AROS in any way.

Multiprocessing is here to stay and there's no turning back.

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pixie wrote: @HenryCase Quote: So as you can see, AROS doesn't need to be rewritten from the ground up to support those features. It really is a question of priorities right now, MP and SMP are not high priorities as there are more important features to work on, though you're welcome to start coding if you believe they are. While there might be more important things my only wish is that these priorities takes SMP into considerations so that they don't have to be rebuilt nor hinders AROS in any way. Multiprocessing is here to stay and there's no turning back.

Parts of AROS will need to be rewritten to take advantage of SMP, the point I was making before is that we do not need to discard the vast majority of the AROS code to get SMP (as was being implied by others).

The multikernel approach to SMP suits AROS as AROS is lean on resources. Research has shown that multikernel SMP gives equivalent performance to other forms of SMP, so what's there to worry about?

As I said though, there are more important tasks right now. For example, the WiFi bounty has been assigned, which is great. I've not run AROS natively yet because I've been waiting for WiFi, I imagine there are a lot of other people with the same attitude. You could argue SMP is equally important to other potential users, and you'd be right, but as I said it's a matter of priority, it's no good doubling website rendering speed if you can't access the page in the first place, for example.

@HenryCase: have you actually read the BarrelFish pdf ? It's an experiment OS written with a lot of concepts in mind... What makes you think AROS follows that ?

As for memory protection, I keep on seeing people believing it can be done. Yet no one ever did it... On the other side, I see a lot of people explaining why it isn't possible...

You cannot forever extend a 20 years old OS... even Microsoft changed.. oh, guess what ? Even Apple gave up on improving classic MacOS. I don't think anyone here can do better than Apple + Microsoft's hundreds of engeeners... You're free to think the contrary though.

I don't...

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AROS wants to be true to amiga. That is why its very strict to compatible with OS 3.1.
This is why we cant just make the OS with mem.. protection ect.
None of amiga systems have mem.. protection.
If that is so important I guess you have to move to other OS.

This is amigaworld!!!

@Leo
People also said that ppc port of amigaos was impossible, firefox port was impossible, smp was impossible and so on.

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While there might be more important things my only wish is that these priorities takes SMP into considerations so that they don't have to be rebuilt nor hinders AROS in any way.

That will mean the holy 3.1 API will have to go and you know what type of flame wars explode when the holy 3.1 API is threatened by certain members of the AROS community. That's one of the biggest reasons I no longer support AROS, it's a dead end looking for it's final resting place.

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Multiprocessing is here to stay and there's no turning back.

Truism. It will require a modern OS to take advantage of the technology. Unless OS4 throws the holy 3.1 on to the junk heap of ancient OSs, there is no hope for the Amiga to continue on in any spiritual form.

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@damocles

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Quote: While there might be more important things my only wish is that these priorities takes SMP into considerations so that they don't have to be rebuilt nor hinders AROS in any way. That will mean the holy 3.1 API will have to go and you know what type of flame wars explode when the holy 3.1 API is threatened by certain members of the AROS community. That's one of the biggest reasons I no longer support AROS, it's a dead end looking for it's final resting place.

The future is plagued with multiple cores, CPU, GPU, etc... people will cope that some compromises will have to be achieved to take advantage of those, with the time all resistance will be eroded and washed by, and Amiga experience served in a new yet free form.

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Quote: Multiprocessing is here to stay and there's no turning back. Truism. It will require a modern OS to take advantage of the technology. Unless OS4 throws the holy 3.1 on to the junk heap of ancient OSs, there is no hope for the Amiga to continue on in any spiritual form.

Please keep of AmigaOS 4 out of the picture, were talking of AROS, you can create a new thread about your worries regarding AmigaOS 4.

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@damocles

I see AROS development as a stepping stone to something better. Once they've sorted out how to create an AmigaOS 3.1 UI experience (with some minor updates) in retargetable open sources, (cpu wise, graphics and sound chipset wise), then it can be hybridized into a more advanced system design. But when things like changing the mouse pointer and dragging and scrolling screens couldn't possibly work, as they did on any real Amiga, it wasn't worth pursuing seriously.

@clusteruk:

I am waiting for the next ICAROS-version (with USB-Boot-option) and will try the same on my HP Mini Netbook. If it works I will definitively support AROS in the future (in addition to AmigaOS4, hopefully on an AmigaOne X1000).

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@damocles

I know you've done a lot for Aros way back and I respect that, but I don't see the holy API you talk about. From my point of view it was many that supported AROS going in more modern directions AFTER the original goal had been reached. I would leave AROS too if it would stop at 3.1 "holy" API but I really don't think it will stop there, it will go beoynd that but it will take it's time and nobody can use "magic" to fix it. fast and easy I think you learnt that with Anubis too. Talk is easy, doing is where it's going to cost efforts and sweat from a lot of people.

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