@All

I am seeing this type of thread over and over again here and elsewhere.
What I can't get my head around is why?

CUSA are a company that are about to produce pc's running Linux, some in retro cases and badged using names that many have fond memories for.

So on that basis, why so much fanboyism and hatred?
CUSA are either the spawn of the devil or the second coming, depending on who posts.

I cant understand either viewpoint.
Dell produce PCs with Linux, nobody is hounding them.
The only difference from CUSA is the branding.

Is that really what everyone is getting worked up about?

CUSA are not going to steal customers away from Hyperion/Acube/MOS and all the other players in Amigaland, they are operating in a different market.
I seriously doubt anyone is going to buy one of their machines mistaking if for a SAM460 for instance .

CUSA are also not going to catapult Amigans back to te cutting edge of technology.
They flirted with the idea of AROS and rejected it, and as far as I know, they have made no attempt to have either AOS4 or MorphOS ported to their hardware.
Their company their choice.

So in summary, as CUSA will neither be advancing or detracting from any of the Amiga OSes, why all the fanboyism and hatred?

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@DAX

Double that anyday.
In fact, would like to put it inna description of video
Know why CUSA is lame

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@TiredofLife

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So in summary, as CUSA will neither be advancing or detracting from any of the Amiga OSes, why all the fanboyism and hatred?

After so many years here on AW, how can you even ask?

@TiredofLife

We at least know facts of life,
what they are selling.

If they were honest and had CUSA Amiga 2011 Plus, Extra and Mega
coming with "just" heavyweight Ubuntu, Debian ... you name it
as well as with AmiKit, AmigaForever and AROS, that would be even nice.
And C64 and A1200 cases for all, including ITX and FlexATX boards of PowerPC Amigas. A little note about real Amiga history, and I might consider buying it to the 15 year old kid. Royalties paid for all in one and desktop Amiga name to Amiga Inc (Amiga Inc could invest in something real that money too ...) and way to go boys.
Come join iMica and rest of nice AROS Crew, support AMC and AROS development and we even love ya.

But don`t come reap all the peoples good work and even try to supermacist
real Amiga users, for what even they have and know better by now, and some
has been waiting to return to AmigaOS style long time. There are many ways
to fight it even legally including claim that Commodore Amiga 1200,2000 ... are already sold and trademarked products on any market, just because you don`t even take legal steps to ensure bussines ... Huh ... most Amiga company in old promised style so far. Natami develivers interesting thing, as well as Minimig, MorphOS team and yes Hyperion and few thousands PPC boys ...

Homer Simpson would say boring ... and his boss would say "excellent"

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@pavlor

Just because of their attitude. People really need to learn proper manners and good behaviour. Rod of correction if you like it

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@vox

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vox wrote: @pavlor Just because of their attitude. People really need to learn proper manners and good behaviour. Rod of correction if you like it

And look whom we have to speak about attitude, proper manners and good behavior...

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@eXec
Is cusa allowed to sub license? I mean the name "Amiga"

One note:
First i thought CUSA is just a group of hmm(now i should be diplomatic) ... seems i was wrong. I thought they just will use what other have done and combine it with the name Amiga to earn the big money....

Well to be honest.. in their position i would also not risk to use AROS because of the stuff happened between A inc. and hyperion.. so about this i can accept their decision.

What i still dislike a bit is that they try to make big money (outside the Amiga community) and don't even consider to help those remaining"hardcore enthusiasts" (AROS, MOS and AOS crowd)

At least it seems so. It is like being the last nail in the coffin. Not the fine british style.

If i had the money you seem to have (or not to have... maybe there are investors or credits or whatever) i would consider to p**s on x86 and make it real individual.

Not PPC.. the logical way would be ARM... and i can imagine OS X Lion is the bridge between Apple desktop and mobile(ARM) device.... Windows 8 will run on ARM..

ARM is cheap, ARM is powerfull, ARM is different. And be sure people which buy a PC in a C64 case wan't to be different. ARM has Flash support ARM is supported by big Linux distributions and ARM has a good chance to replace X86 in Apples desktops.

So could you help me to get in contact about the Amiga-brand?

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@phoenixkonsole

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Is cusa allowed to sub license? I mean the name "Amiga"

Well, AInc said nothing till now. So, I assume it is.

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What i still dislike a bit is that they try to make big money (outside the Amiga community) and don't even consider to help those remaining"hardcore enthusiasts" (AROS, MOS and AOS crowd)

Don`t worry...they will think on everything. Just a bit more to wait. Believe me,
things are looking more than good for everyone. ;)

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Not PPC.. the logical way would be ARM... and i can imagine OS X Lion is the bridge between Apple desktop and mobile(ARM) device.... Windows 8 will run on ARM.. ARM is cheap, ARM is powerfull, ARM is different. And be sure people which buy a PC in a C64 case wan't to be different. ARM has Flash support ARM is supported by big Linux distributions and ARM has a good chance to replace X86 in Apples desktops. So could you help me to get in contact about the Amiga-brand?

We`ll see what happens. The very first thing is to generate some money, C=64 is the ideal
way to go. After that comes the real deal....

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@eXec

You seem to be hinting a lot at what's coming next from CUSA.
Do you know something or are you just guessing?

To be honest unless you can point to something concrete, you are wasting your time here.

Products that have been announced and prototypes shown still get blasted on this site as being vapour.
And to be honest, that it is only to be expected becuae of the many previous disappointments.

Promising gravy tomorrow, wont get you much support here.

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@TiredofLife

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TiredofLife wrote: @eXec You seem to be hinting a lot at what's coming next from CUSA. Do you know something or are you just guessing? To be honest unless you can point to something concrete, you are wasting your time here. Products that have been announced and prototypes shown still get blasted on this site as being vapour. And to be honest, that it is only to be expected becuae of the many previous disappointments. Promising gravy tomorrow, wont get you much support here.

Guessing will it be. It is more than logical each further step.
Even the one with the gathering all of licenses under the same roof.
Consider me as a very first CUSA fan here since they announced
their agsistance, cos really , i am the one.

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@Amigo1

I was referring to Linux or Mac or PC. Not intending the app available on the three platforms. i should have worded it better.

@Drhirudo

To my mind comes different text editors that have more features than CygnusEd. For example bbedit on mac.

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@DAX

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@To Cusa people: You see, we already have Windows machines at home (finished Dead Space 2 a while back), what could Cusa offer that we don't already have three trillion times better and more powerful already? So "what Hyperion can offer instead" you ask?

Please give it a rest, this is a thread about C=USA C64x and not about Hyperion. You are going completely off topic. If you want to beat your chest about OS4, start a different thread.

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@ribdevil

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@eXec I can't understandig what are you doing in a site calling "AMIGA", better go to a PC forum.

Because this thread is about C=USA doing pre-production of the C64x. C=USA will also be producing the new Amigas some time in the second half of 2011.

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@eXec

Thought this thread was about C= USA. You seem to think i'm interested in X1000, i'm not.
I think it is slow and overpriced (there are already 6 cores x86 cpus pretty cheap and the X1000 has 2 cores and isn't even released yet).

But i doubt the C64 PC (whatever it's called) will sell good either (if ever released). There's nothing special about it except the case. It will probably be very expensive too.

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@DAX

What's the difference that make a embedded board (teron) more Amiga than a x86 board in a CUSA case?. Neither of them are made by the original Amiga Team, and the os too isn't made by the original developers. Both they have licenses, but you keep saying again again and again that CUSA computers are not Amigas. Could you explain once and for all why?

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@vox

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And how has the CUSA shown to be STRONG PLAYER? By braking promises such as AROS support

Have Hyperion issues a legal authorization for Amiga Inc IP licensees to use AROS in a commercial manner. I think the software issues that Barry had with AROS are being worked out but having Hyperion OK AROS being sold on Commodore Amgias would be a wonderful olive branch. Don't you think?

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@sundown

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And what about your claim to be neutral just a few posts ago? If you & dammy were half as smart as you claim to be, none of this crap posting would be the norm. You cusa fanboys rode in here on white horses claiming to save Amigaland, I think it's time you climbed back on your mules & ride back out.

How about you stop trolling in C=USA threads?

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@damocles

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Have Hyperion issues a legal authorization for Amiga Inc IP licensees to use AROS in a commercial manner.

licensees? plural?
Are you trying to indicate this is a goal of IContain as well?

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@damocles

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damocles wrote: Have Hyperion issues a legal authorization for Amiga Inc IP licensees to use AROS in a commercial manner. I think the software issues that Barry had with AROS are being worked out but having Hyperion OK AROS being sold on Commodore Amgias would be a wonderful olive branch. Don't you think?

I believe Barry put the kabosh on some Amiga 'concept' related to the X500. No?

If so, then Barry should protect IP, and Hyperion should not. Yes?

C-usa good, Hyperion bad. Uh-huh. - -

@damocles

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this is a thread about C=USA C64x

Which as it has *nothing* to do with Amiga whatsoever, why is it even allowed on AWN ?